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    Posted: April 18 2020 at 07:52
I love the stories of Peter's extemporaneous "fillers" that he used to invent on the spot in order to cover the otherwise-dead-space that his mates required between songs for endless re-tunings, re-programming, volume checks, re-stringings, and other activities. The one on Genesis Live is legend, but if they were all as creative and supernatural-sci-fi-ish as that one, I would have wanted that book! I wouldn't be surprised to learn that "Squonk" or "A Trick of the Tail" came from one of these.

Otherwise, Sides Three and Four of The Lamb never fail to trip my imagination. 


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Harold the Barell is outstanding. Fountain is so much stronger....
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Mascodagama Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 18 2020 at 03:04
Originally posted by HackettFan HackettFan wrote:

Yeah. We’ve had plenty of discussion about Battle of Epping Forest, and we’ll probably have a lot more. I still don’t understand the swarm of dislike for it. Especially when directed toward the song structure. I can in fact understand how some might suffer fatigue and just get worded out. But their use of varied parts with transitional elements crossing time signatures and keys is quintessential Genesis and they were very adept at it by that time. I love guitar parts, I might add too.
I think this is probably more apparent if you're British, but personally: here (and in some other places) the lyrics feel uncomfortably condescending towards their subjects. The impression is given that posh public schoolboy Peter Gabriel finds the antics of the lower classes awfully comical. I'm put in mind of a quote from Michael Caine about his motivations for playing the lead in Get Carter:

"One of the reasons I wanted to make that picture was my background. In English movies, gangsters were either stupid or funny. I wanted to show that they're neither. Gangsters are not stupid, and they're certainly not very funny." He identified with Carter as a memory of his working class upbringing, having friends and family members who were involved in crime and felt Carter represented a path his life might have taken under different circumstances: "Carter is the dead-end product of my own environment, my childhood. I know him well. He is the ghost of Michael Caine."

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Originally posted by dougmcauliffe dougmcauliffe wrote:

Originally posted by HackettFan HackettFan wrote:

Yeah. We’ve had plenty of discussion about Battle of Epping Forest, and we’ll probably have a lot more. I still don’t understand the swarm of dislike for it. Especially when directed toward the song structure. I can in fact understand how some might suffer fatigue and just get worded out. But their use of varied parts with transitional elements crossing time signatures and keys is quintessential Genesis and they were very adept at it by that time. I love guitar parts, I might add too.


Yeah I don’t get the hate either it’s my second favorite off the album and that’s mostly cause there’s so much to keep it fresh to come back to.


My second favorite on the album as well, right behind Firth of Fifth.  I think it's quite a fun 11 minute song.  Wordy, but the words are fun. 
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Slippermen, but 'Harold the barrel' should be on the list imo.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Mortte Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 17 2020 at 23:44
Get em...
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Fountain of Salmacis. Best Genesis - EVER !!
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None of the above.  I'll go for 'White Mountain'.  It actually is a story-song with a narrative.

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Get Em`Out By Friday 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote miamiscot Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 18 2019 at 10:18
And I absolutely adore The Battle Of Epping Forest. The hate is ridiculous. It's the best song on SEBTP.
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All of them!!! (But I voted for the mighty hogweed.)
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Originally posted by HackettFan HackettFan wrote:

Yeah. We’ve had plenty of discussion about Battle of Epping Forest, and we’ll probably have a lot more. I still don’t understand the swarm of dislike for it. Especially when directed toward the song structure. I can in fact understand how some might suffer fatigue and just get worded out. But their use of varied parts with transitional elements crossing time signatures and keys is quintessential Genesis and they were very adept at it by that time. I love guitar parts, I might add too.


Yeah I don’t get the hate either it’s my second favorite off the album and that’s mostly cause there’s so much to keep it fresh to come back to.
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Yeah. We’ve had plenty of discussion about Battle of Epping Forest, and we’ll probably have a lot more. I still don’t understand the swarm of dislike for it. Especially when directed toward the song structure. I can in fact understand how some might suffer fatigue and just get worded out. But their use of varied parts with transitional elements crossing time signatures and keys is quintessential Genesis and they were very adept at it by that time. I love guitar parts, I might add too.
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Epping is an Epping disaster!  One of their worst!  I'll go Hogweed for the win
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Get 'Em Out By Friday. Hogweed and Slippermen come next. Both good but neither quite get close to Get 'Em Out. Epping has always been the (relative) dud on SEBTP to me, but the lyrics and story are good fun. Just a bit of a mess song-wise. All In A Mouse's Night comes before Robbery, Assault, and Battery for me, probably just because I heard WaW long before ATotT.
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Get Em' Out, of course.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Dellinger Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 13 2019 at 21:41
Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

Originally posted by Blacksword Blacksword wrote:

Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Originally posted by Blacksword Blacksword wrote:

Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

All In A Mouses Night always makes me smile


All in a mouses night always makes my toes cur
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My favourite from that list Return of the Giant Hogweed, especially the version on Genesis Live.
 

Now that would be Epping Forest for me Big smile


Yes, Epping Forest is something of an irritant to me too. SEBTP could have been the best prog rock album of all time, with a few significant changes here and there.


Indeed, edit out the awful More Fool Me and replace it with Twilight alehouse, and you've got a 99/100 album.Big smileWink

but don't touch Epping ForestAngryLOL


I would sooner replace Epping Forest than More Fool Me to try and make Selling England a 5 star album. More Fool Me is bland and useless, but too short to make much damage, and not really annoying. Epping Forest is too annoying and too long to try to ignore.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote AFlowerKingCrimson Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 13 2019 at 19:27
I think cinema show should be on this list. Smile

Anyway, I voted for Hogweed but all of these are pretty good.


Edited by AFlowerKingCrimson - July 13 2019 at 19:28
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote HackettFan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 13 2019 at 18:38
The Lamia

Close runners up: White Mountain, Lillywhite Lilith, One For the Vine, Trick of the Tail (the last for its lyric mainly, if not exclusively)
Of the options given I voted Get ‘em Out By Friday. All in a Mouse’s Night and Robbery Assault and Battery are on my disdain list.
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