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Poll Question: Which is your favorite?
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5 [8.93%]
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Originally posted by HackettFan HackettFan wrote:

Yeah. We’ve had plenty of discussion about Battle of Epping Forest, and we’ll probably have a lot more. I still don’t understand the swarm of dislike for it. Especially when directed toward the song structure. I can in fact understand how some might suffer fatigue and just get worded out. But their use of varied parts with transitional elements crossing time signatures and keys is quintessential Genesis and they were very adept at it by that time. I love guitar parts, I might add too.


Yeah I don’t get the hate either it’s my second favorite off the album and that’s mostly cause there’s so much to keep it fresh to come back to.
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All of them!!! (But I voted for the mighty hogweed.)
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And I absolutely adore The Battle Of Epping Forest. The hate is ridiculous. It's the best song on SEBTP.
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None of the above.  I'll go for 'White Mountain'.  It actually is a story-song with a narrative.

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Fountain of Salmacis. Best Genesis - EVER !!
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Get em...
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Slippermen, but 'Harold the barrel' should be on the list imo.
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Originally posted by dougmcauliffe dougmcauliffe wrote:

Originally posted by HackettFan HackettFan wrote:

Yeah. We’ve had plenty of discussion about Battle of Epping Forest, and we’ll probably have a lot more. I still don’t understand the swarm of dislike for it. Especially when directed toward the song structure. I can in fact understand how some might suffer fatigue and just get worded out. But their use of varied parts with transitional elements crossing time signatures and keys is quintessential Genesis and they were very adept at it by that time. I love guitar parts, I might add too.


Yeah I don’t get the hate either it’s my second favorite off the album and that’s mostly cause there’s so much to keep it fresh to come back to.


My second favorite on the album as well, right behind Firth of Fifth.  I think it's quite a fun 11 minute song.  Wordy, but the words are fun. 
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Originally posted by HackettFan HackettFan wrote:

Yeah. We’ve had plenty of discussion about Battle of Epping Forest, and we’ll probably have a lot more. I still don’t understand the swarm of dislike for it. Especially when directed toward the song structure. I can in fact understand how some might suffer fatigue and just get worded out. But their use of varied parts with transitional elements crossing time signatures and keys is quintessential Genesis and they were very adept at it by that time. I love guitar parts, I might add too.
I think this is probably more apparent if you're British, but personally: here (and in some other places) the lyrics feel uncomfortably condescending towards their subjects. The impression is given that posh public schoolboy Peter Gabriel finds the antics of the lower classes awfully comical. I'm put in mind of a quote from Michael Caine about his motivations for playing the lead in Get Carter:

"One of the reasons I wanted to make that picture was my background. In English movies, gangsters were either stupid or funny. I wanted to show that they're neither. Gangsters are not stupid, and they're certainly not very funny." He identified with Carter as a memory of his working class upbringing, having friends and family members who were involved in crime and felt Carter represented a path his life might have taken under different circumstances: "Carter is the dead-end product of my own environment, my childhood. I know him well. He is the ghost of Michael Caine."

I mean there's a place for The Lavender Hill Mob as well as Get Carter. But that place was really in in 1951, not 1973.
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Harold the Barell is outstanding. Fountain is so much stronger....
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I love the stories of Peter's extemporaneous "fillers" that he used to invent on the spot in order to cover the otherwise-dead-space that his mates required between songs for endless re-tunings, re-programming, volume checks, re-stringings, and other activities. The one on Genesis Live is legend, but if they were all as creative and supernatural-sci-fi-ish as that one, I would have wanted that book! I wouldn't be surprised to learn that "Squonk" or "A Trick of the Tail" came from one of these.

Otherwise, Sides Three and Four of The Lamb never fail to trip my imagination. 


Edited by BrufordFreak - April 18 2020 at 07:55
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