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dougmcauliffe
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Two very significant modern prog albums. But I definitely gotta vote for Wobbler. There are 3 main reasons.
1: the vocals are 100x better on FSTS, I’d say the vocals on Hybris are borderline poor 2: The song structure is a lot better on FSTS. The songs all naturally flow while on Hybris I feel like they just go from one idea to another 3: better melodies and better production. Hybris is certainly very influential, I’d argue I get Anglagard vibes every now and then on FSTS, but overall I’d say it’s stronger |
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love both but
Hybris for me
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AFlowerKingCrimson
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Hybris is modern?
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dougmcauliffe
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I consider modern prog to be 90s forward, not that modern anymore I suppose |
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Barbu
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Hybris all the way.
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Going with Wobbler . . .
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Really tough choice between two outstanding albums.
I'm not sure I'd say FSTS vocals are good enough to give them an obvious not in that department. Regarding melodies, FSTS is definitely more melodic, but hooky melodies don't make the better song for me. In the end, I just find Hybris more musically interesting. It flows quite well for me and I can really keep my teeth sunk into it from start to finish.
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Man With Hat
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Hybris
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Logan
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"Modern" can seem/ be a very arbitrary term, sometimes it means very recent, sometimes it just means post-ancient, and how ancient is ancient? Modern "Art Music" is often considered to be from 1900 up. I took a "modern history" course which started with the Renaissance. I would also tend to use modern prog to prefer to post-80s music, as I see that as being something of a modern era of Prog, but it would depend on the context. Classic Prog for me tends to refer to the late 60s through the mid to late 70s. Anyway, it's a relative term, and it depends on what one is comparing it to. The OED's first description in one version is "Relating to the present or recent times as opposed to the remote past." How recent is recent, and how remote is the remote past? It's relative, but according to one site, the remote past, or at least remote past tense, refers to a time considered more than a few days ago.. In the remote past, which was at least six days ago and certainly sometime after the birth of our universe, which was 13.772 billion years ago, or about 6000 years ago according to some Creationists, I ate a sandwich. It was quite good, if a little dry. I think of thirteen years ago as pretty recent (modern times to me), but for my 12 year old son, that's more than a lifetime ago. I can seem to remember more vividly some events in my life from the 70s than events from yesterday, but those were more memorable, and those memories have been reconstructed many times over the years. But I digress. No vote, I have only properly listened to Hybris (last listened to it over a decade ago and while I used to love it, I went off it). I did play much of that Wobbler streaming, but despite enjoying some elements, it didn't really work for me. I'm not much of a Symphonic Prog fan to begin with, and there are very few post-classic era bands included in Symphonic Prog that I have heard and enjoyed. Edited by Logan - September 10 2019 at 17:17 |
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Just a fanboy passin' through.
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Wobbler.
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dr wu23
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Wobbler.........
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Dellinger
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Hybris, easily, one of my favourite prog albums after the 70's... and even including the 70's.
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I second that.
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richardh
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Hybris definitely. Maybe A Drop of Light v Hybris might be interesting as I'm not sure which way I would go on that. BTW Par Lindh Project's first 3 albums are better than anything Wobbler have ever done imo.
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Wobbler.
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miamiscot
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Wobbler by far.
The vocals on Hybris? Yuck!!! So glad they went instrumental after the debut.
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From Silence to Somewhere - Wobbler
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richardh
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I did wonder if the vocals on Hybris are a problem for some. I really like them and adds another dimension for me. Viljans Oga was just very average and showed zero progression in all that time imo.
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Love both albums. Hybris was more groundbreaking when it came out, it went against the tide of the moment, but overall I prefer FSTS.
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