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Psychedelic Paul ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 16 2019 Location: Nottingham, U.K Status: Offline Points: 37096 |
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I read that producer Jonathan King wanted Genesis to sound like the Bee Gees (his favourite band) on their first album, although that would've been a Tragedy for prog fans. Anyway, they came up with the Bee Gees pastiche, Silent Sun, just to placate Jonathan King.
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AlanB ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: January 19 2013 Status: Offline Points: 1137 |
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I think there was a Christian band around called Genesis at the time, this may have contributed to the confusion.
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Cristi ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Crossover / Prog Metal Teams Joined: July 27 2006 Location: wonderland Status: Offline Points: 41964 |
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You are probably right, just saying that song length was Jonathan King's decision, that's all. Tony Banks said in an interview some of the songs were initially longer.
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I wouldn't say he is to blame, but more likely thanked. These high-school boys didn't have the chops or inspiration to make a Tresspass 0.5 No JK, no Genesis, AFAIAC.
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let's just stay above the moral melee
prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
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Jonathan King is partly to blame for the songs being shorter, also he meddled in arranging some songs. Edited by Cristi - September 20 2023 at 05:16 |
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Sean Trane ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() Prog Folk Joined: April 29 2004 Location: Heart of Europe Status: Offline Points: 19915 |
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Knowing the Genesis story, it makes it easier to finds the seeds that grew into Tresspass & stuff At first, I heavily WTF'd when I brought it home (different title too) and rejected it for years, but little by little, I've grown to like it. Not that I woukd play it lore often than others. (It's been years since I've spun a Genesis album, anyways)
I far prefer FGTR to anything Post-Duke (with the possible tie with Shapes), because by the time they went onto Abacrap, they were professionals with huge means, whereas for Revelation, they were total amateurs.
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let's just stay above the moral melee
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richardh ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: February 18 2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 26788 |
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Genesis is 1970-1980 then I'm pretty much out. FGTR (recorded in 1968) just misses the mark entirely when you look at how the British art rock scene was beginning to progress at that time. The likes of Procol and The Nice were already so far ahead its ridiculous. They needed more homework!
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FGTR is better than CAS but that's about it (imo).
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It's a decent british 60s pop album. I got a remaster of it (In the Beginning) a couple months ago, and it's the only album I won I haven't listened to yet....
I listened to it on Spotify a couple months ago. Not bad
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The Wheel of Time Turns, and Ages come and pass. What was, what will be, and what is, may yet fall under the shadow.
Let the Dragon ride again on the winds of time... |
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It's taken me 45 years, but I finally have been hearing "tiny seeds" in From G to R songs that reappear in later, more mature Genesis. What used to be a throw away album has become fairly interesting, tolerable, and even likable (probably more due to its familiarity).
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Drew Fisher
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Quite an anonymous album as far as I am concerned, but not something that really affects me physically. I don't mind it, but I think it is easy to hear that this kind of lightweight pop wasn't their thing.
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I prefer From Genesis to Revelation over everything (that I've heard) post Wind & Wuthering. Peter Gabriel already had something special, there's quite a few genuinely wonderful songs on it (I wouldn't mind if either In the Beginning or The Serpent was chosen to be saved for Trespass - over Visions of Angels - which originally was recorded for their debut too), a nice warm atmosphere and a charming wide-eyed naivety.
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Oh, so it's a monologue. Ok, I'll see myself out.
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Its about writing ability !!!
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Completely agree. Easily the worst Genesis album in my opinion
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Take me down, to the underground
Won't you take me down, to the underground Why oh why, there is no light And if I can't sleep, can you hold my life https://www.youtube.com/@CocoonMasterBrendan-wh3sd |
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Psychedelic Paul ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 16 2019 Location: Nottingham, U.K Status: Offline Points: 37096 |
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I just realised today I have more Phil Collins solo albums (seven) than all of the other Genesis band members put together, which is surely Against All Odds.
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My Top 10 Genesis Songs (in alphabetical order)
The Carpet Crawlers The Cinema Show Firth of Forth I Know What I Like (in Your Wardrobe) The Knife The Musical Box Ripples Supper's Ready Watcher of the Skies White Mountain
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Genesis Documentaries, Album by Album
1969: Genesis - From Genesis to Revelation: The Story So Far - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMDE5kP1s9E 1970: Genesis - Trespass Reissues Interview - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erdajj_8D74 1971: Genesis - The Story of Nursery Cryme - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQ4XfbpS_bc 1971: Genesis - Nursery Cryme Reissues Interview - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEC9ON0SJWE 1972: Genesis - Foxtrot Reissues Interview - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5DinP93nW8Q 1973: Genesis - Selling England by the Pound Reissues Interview - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPZ2MrXhEpk 1973: Genesis - The Story of Selling England by the Pound - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAdl6hS0bjw 1974: Genesis - The Story of The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Os-F3DgjYis 1974: Genesis - The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway Reissues Interview - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ejs1G2yLBM8 1976: Genesis - The Story of A Trick of the Tail - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMVqnKK2SVE 1976: Genesis - A Trick of the Tail Reissues Interview - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zee0uGa_sE 1976: Genesis - Wind & Wuthering Reissues Interview - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_JeFNBjsXoI 1976: Genesis - The Story of Wind & Wuthering - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sx6P9_9420k 1978: Genesis - And Then There Were Three Reissues Interview - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjI93COgJ1M 1980: Genesis - Duke Reissues Interview - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2WZNVG3qas 1980: Genesis - The Story of Duke - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IO5hL-0MeJs 1981: Genesis - Abacab Reissues Interview - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KhF52l83M8 1983: Genesis - Genesis Reissues Interview - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snqKZ9_rATg 1986: Genesis - Invisible Touch Reissues Interview - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqwW6XYW3gY 1991: Genesis - We Can't Dance Reissues Interview - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUwsoGIIdqM 1997: Genesis - Calling All Stations Reissues Interview - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xqEpIjpCNM |
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