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Mortte
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Really havenīt got interest to read all that has posted here, but I just want to ask "Why you should like modern prog?" There are made plenty of great albums in the golden period of prog, specially if you donīt want to listen just UK prog. Also there are lots of really great music made 1960-1979, if youīre openminded musiclistener.
I have found that most of after seventies prog is just boring, of course there are exceptions (for example Faust). Most of the music I love after seventies is not at least commonly perceived prog.
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Mortte
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^I am not going to continue this at all. I have listened music over 40 years and still follow whatīs coming, I am not lazy. Itīs just the matter of tastes, I have nothing against if somebody is liking new music more than the old. There was a title "why I can`t I stand most modern prog", I just donīt see why anybody should automatically like modern prog, because you can find also great old music so much you canīt listen it all enough in your life. At least I canīt. I am happy with my thousands of 1950-2019 albums, hope youīre also with yours.
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Grumpyprogfan
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And by the way, I've been listening to music for 50 years, so I win.
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It's not a competition, is it? I hope not, because I don't think the way I listen to music would win any competitions if it is. Edited by I prophesy disaster - January 01 2020 at 10:46 |
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to quote Barbara Dennerlein: "music is not a competition, it is a communication"
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Timeaisis
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I've gotten into some modern prog...but not a lot. Most of the ones I like have a similar sound to older prog.
I think for me it's the production of new prog. It sounds very manufactured and almost too perfect, if that makes any sense. I also think melodically, it has way too much going on. I prefer my prog with digestible bits of a song that when put together makes a musical journey. Go nuts sometimes, but not all the time. Today it seems like most prog just crams as much as they can into a 10 minute song, and lose me somewhere along the way.
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Squonk19
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There's some great modern prog out there.... some rather derivative, some straddling genre borders, but a lot giving a fresh take on the concept of prog. Can't remember a year like last year when I bought so much music on CD or download and I have to push myself to revisit the classic era when there is so much new stuff to appraise and listen to. Given the improved production values on most, you're missing out if you don't take the advice of Internet prog radio, PA or prog media and explore further, whilst also basking in the undoubted glories of the past.
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ProcolWho?
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Just a random name. The Watch, very good .
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dr wu23
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^The Watch are a decent band...but guess what? They sound like old prog.....Genesis to be exact.
My point is that almost all the 'modern' prog bands I like sound like derivations of old classic prog bands....but then that's just me. There aren't any modern ones with truly different sounding approaches that I can get into...again that's just me.
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Frenetic Zetetic
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No, you're spot on here, and that's my biggest gripe. Prog as a label is almost an illusion or red herring to begin with, but now you just have these modern bands copying that 70's sound and calling themselves "prog". There are so many layers of irrationality happening at once, lol. I have a big post coming in the "gripe" thread to make my case once and for all!
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Going to see the watch doing Classic genesis covers in manchester. Seen them before, excellent stuff. If prog bands want to produce music thay sounds like 1973 prog, I personally love it! If you want a prog band to sound like a new romantic band from the eighties to do something different tben listen to new romantic cover bands....The more derivative, the better they are in my opinion...
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Enchant X
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I think the music itself today is just as strong as in the 70's ... but it was new and fresh in the 70's so it made more of an emotional impact
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The 70s bands caught lightning in a bottle.....the musicians were young, inspired, and represented some of the finest instrumentalists of the era.
Who is the post-1970s Robert Fripp? Steve Howe? Rick Wakeman? Steve Hackett? Many modern bands like Dream Theater have amazing chops, but they sound derivative to me....what have they innovated or invented? I enjoy how Fripp keeps re-inventing the King Crimson warhorse....three drummers onstage?? Brilliant!! Using i-Pads with Mellotron software onstage? Again, Brilliant! I'd love to see more women in prog, especially as vocalists. Magenta, Glass Hammer and other acts show how powerful this can be.
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Matt Bellamy and Steven Wilson are perhaps two I would put up there in that esteemed company. Muse are more of a heavy electro pop act nowadays but they make some interesting stuff although it's only the first 4 albums that have anything to do with prog admittedly. Anathema are a modern band that are very special to me and they utilise male and female vocals incredibly well. Magenta and Glass Hammer are both great bands never mind that they use female vocals, but I've recently discovered Thieves' Kitchen and the Far Meadow that utilise female vocals. I also love The Moulettes and Bent Knee but there are of course plenty of others. However back to your original point yes , very little that is released nowadays sounds particularly inspired and musicians back in the seventies were just better although I am very impressed with Elephant 9 who could be a true throwback to that era.
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Frenetic Zetetic
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This.
I also think how music is consumed now has a huge influence on perception! How often do we have to wait to go to the record store, get the physical product, get it home, turn it on, and enjoy? Now you click a link and can hear an entire album before it's even out, and pre-judge it from your computer chair/on your way to work while you scroll through Spotify lol. HUGE impact IMHO! |
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M27Barney
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Hm, listening carefully to non prog music is like experimenting with wearing womens clothes...what if you enjoy it too much???
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Grumpyprogfan
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With all the great modern prog suggestions given to the OP, I would like to ask him/her if they have changed their opinion of modern prog. If so, which bands?
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