Progarchives and the world of boxes

How can music that's deemed progressive possibly fit into a box? 

Atavachron wrote: Guldbamsen wrote: Remember how punk (or disco depending on who you ask) killed prog? How these two styles of music supposedly were at war with each other? I will blasphemously say this: Disco was progressive.   No sh*t.

SteveG wrote: How can music that's deemed progressive possibly fit into a box?

Yes, it really can. No matter what genre it is, there is always people who want to go to box and shout to others that are not in the same box.

Part of the background for this is actually a returning event that I have come to cherish over the years which in effect is PAs AOTY. -A competition of sorts that tries to highlight some of the many new releases from yesteryear. I’ve always looked at it as fancy recommendation list on part of the collabs that usually tends to showcase what an eclectic bunch we all are...and I love that about it.

But there are always those that take these lists literally...like in taking offense because the new album by Smorgasbord isn’t in the top 5 and why it is that collabs have their ears stuffed with cotton and lard.
We also see this type of behaviour over the frontpage where folks start bogus account in order to rate a specific 2019 album with the proverbial full Monty..and then finds as many other 2019 releases as he can possibly muster..and rates them all with 1 star. That’s pretty much day to day behaviour on the frontpage and also why most folks who’ve worked as a collab long enough to realise this..well they end up not giving two sh*ts about the thing...or at the very least start thinking differently about the whole system.

I know many a progfans probably feel that I am barking up the wrong tree as they think they generally are an open bunch with very eclectic tastes, yet even so we still see this nonsensical fighting amongst us often deteriorating into heated posts where all kinds of madness gets tossed up into the air..simply because very few have the balls to admit to being wrong or unenlightened.

‘I really don’t get that band but I am interested in why it makes your juices flowing’

That’s a powerful statement, because it opens up a door in one’s brain. Just because one doesn’t like or get X band it is still feasible to put oneself in the other person’s shoes...or at the very least try to.
When that happens you aknowledge the fact that music isn’t finite. It’s not bound to your particular set of tastes and can furthermore be enjoyed and approached from many other angles.

I am not saying that we should like everything...but I am saying that we don’t need to start unnecessary fires in threads where we have no footing whatsoever.

Edited by Guldbamsen - February 03 2020 at 01:42

Mortte wrote: SteveG wrote: How can music that's deemed progressive possibly fit into a box?  Yes, it really can. No matter what genre it is, there is always people who want to go to box and shout to others that are not in the same box.

The question was rhetorical. Anyhow, people can shout all they like as long as they have good reason to. That's the thing I find missing.

Edited by SteveG - February 03 2020 at 04:18

M27Barney wrote: Most non physicists try to use quantum mechanical weirdness in an effort to justify their pet metaphysical faith or mumbo jumbo...it just amplifies their ignorance. That said, anybody who gives foxtrot 3 stars needs to locked in the box with the mythical cat in the famous thought experiment...

SteveG wrote: Mortte wrote: SteveG wrote: How can music that's deemed progressive possibly fit into a box?  Yes, it really can. No matter what genre it is, there is always people who want to go to box and shout to others that are not in the same box. The question was rhetorical. Anyhow, people can shout all they like as long as they have good reason to. That's the thing I find missing.

I don´t believe in shouting. It doesn´t lead anywhere even there would be real reason to shout.

It's all subjective. My favorite album of all time isn't even in PA's Top 100 so what do I know?!

SteveG wrote: Mortte wrote: SteveG wrote: Mortte wrote: SteveG wrote: How can music that's deemed progressive possibly fit into a box?  Yes, it really can. No matter what genre it is, there is always people who want to go to box and shout to others that are not in the same box. The question was rhetorical. Anyhow, people can shout all they like as long as they have good reason to. That's the thing I find missing.   I don´t believe in shouting. It doesn´t lead anywhere even there would be real reason to shout. I doubt that Guldbamsen literally meant shouting. Just someone offering a contrary opinion which, again, is fine by me if one can back it up sensibly.

To me also, as long as there are just different opinions about some music and nothing more. I think it would be boring, if everybody think same way about music or also anything else. If I have understand right, the main point in David´s posts have been there are no right opinions about music and it´s stupid if people starts to fight for their "right" opinions. Also, I think there always haven´t been just opinions about music, the problem has been more in the relations of the people, I mean who´s higher than some other in PA community etc.

Edited by Mortte - February 03 2020 at 10:24

SteveG wrote: Mortte wrote: Also, I think there always haven´t been just opinions about music, the problem has been more in the relations of the people, I mean who´s higher than some other in PA community etc. Well, there's politics in all walks of life and I'm sure that PA is no different. I personally don't see too many over the top reactions and nasty arguments here. The problem is that the person whose being addressed is just that, a person. Sometimes we forget.

Yep, I agree with you, this is mostly quite nice place to be. And I think atmosphere has gone even better in that time when I was away from here.