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 Posted: February 14 2020 at 18:54 |
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Legendary personality in the RIO and Avant Prog scene. Light years ahead of his contemporaries, IMHO. Which is your personal favorite outing from the Captain and his Magic Band?
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Piero Scaruffi in his Best Rock Albums of All Times puts Trout Mask Replic at number 1.
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Posted: February 14 2020 at 23:14 |
Easy Money wrote:
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Did anyone here ever get Trout Mask Replica on vinyl back in the day? Doesn't have to be release day/month, but anyone remember walking into a record store, seeing the cover, and going "WTF is this?!". I'd LOVE to hear some stories! |
I have it on vinyl, Reprise label. It was recommended by a friend, but the cover was indeed striking. |
As we all know, Beefheart wasn´t popular at all after "Safe As Milk" and I don´t think it also was a huge seller in 1967. You can imagine there was very little person who knew Beefheart sixties/seventies in Finland. One was Finnish music magazine journalist Jussi Niemi. It wasn´t long ago there was a article from Beefheart and he told he was in London 1969 and he heard really great, weird music in some record shop. It was Beefheart´s "Electricity" and after that he became Beefheart-fan. Other was Finnish musicmaker Kauko Röyhkä. It was his interview in eighties I heard first time about Beefheart. I think he has some relative, who have had "Lick My Decals" and Kauko said it was really weird album. My interest woke, but that time you can order only "Lick My Decals/Spotlight Kid"-double album, I didn´t want that, so I ordered "Clear Spot". I really liked it already then, but I thought "this not as weird as Kauko describes "Lick". Then one of my friend got boyfriend from "Oulu"-town, where are much more Beefheart-fans than in my little village or nearby town and she bought "Doc at the Radar Station" for his boyfriends recommendation. Really loved it immediately!!
In nineties I met one bandmate in a bus and finally he recorded me "Lick My Decals". He recorded first side of "Trout" in the end of cassette, "Moonlight in Vermont" was the one that hit really hard to me!! Then I got a second hand record seller, who sold me albums once or twice a year. One day he sold me "Trout", it was also that Reprise re-press, that time there wasn´t any discogs, so I didn´t know it was originally in "Straight"-label and got also insert (I already wanted original pressings, at least pressings with the original materials that time). Still got that reprise version, but going to some day find the one with insert!
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Posted: February 15 2020 at 02:12 |
dr wu23 wrote:
Frenetic Zetetic wrote:
Did anyone here ever get Trout Mask Replica on vinyl back in the day? Doesn't have to be release day/month, but anyone remember walking into a record store, seeing the cover, and going "WTF is this?!". I'd LOVE to hear some stories! |
I started college at IU (Bloomington, Indiana) in '69....there were two guys in the dorm that loved weird music and they played TMR at night often. It was too out there for me to dig at the time ..they also liked Zappa, early Floyd and Beatles (White and Abbey) which I got into of course. I didn't really 'get' Beefheart until 72..Clear Spot. |
Ah, the college years. Hell of a time/year to be a freshman, no? 
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Braka1 wrote:
Frenetic Zetetic wrote:
Did anyone here ever get Trout Mask Replica on vinyl back in the day? Doesn't have to be release day/month, but anyone remember walking into a record store, seeing the cover, and going "WTF is this?!". I'd LOVE to hear some stories! |
Yeah, it wasn't quite 'back in the day' as in the 60's, but it was still in the vinyl era. I think I may have seen the cover before, but I remember first listening to it thru headphones in the store, and cracking up when the 'fast'n'bulbous' bit came on! Bought it on the spot.
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I think it was the early 80s for me. My dad had a coworker with a fairly complete Zappa vinyl collection- so that’s how I initially became acquainted with early FZ, as my dad borrowed these records and I taped them. Then one day Trout Mask came home with him. I knew of Beefheart only through his appearance on Hot Rats. I was pretty impressed by the weirdness of it all, and the between-song chatter made the album more approachable for me. The actual musicality of the pieces didn’t register as much with me back then - that came much later. |
Excellent! 
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Easy Money wrote:
Frenetic Zetetic wrote:
Did anyone here ever get Trout Mask Replica on vinyl back in the day? Doesn't have to be release day/month, but anyone remember walking into a record store, seeing the cover, and going "WTF is this?!". I'd LOVE to hear some stories! |
I have it on vinyl, Reprise label. It was recommended by a friend, but the cover was indeed striking. |
As we all know, Beefheart wasn´t popular at all after "Safe As Milk" and I don´t think it also was a huge seller in 1967. You can imagine there was very little person who knew Beefheart sixties/seventies in Finland. One was Finnish music magazine journalist Jussi Niemi. It wasn´t long ago there was a article from Beefheart and he told he was in London 1969 and he heard really great, weird music in some record shop. It was Beefheart´s "Electricity" and after that he became Beefheart-fan. Other was Finnish musicmaker Kauko Röyhkä. It was his interview in eighties I heard first time about Beefheart. I think he has some relative, who have had "Lick My Decals" and Kauko said it was really weird album. My interest woke, but that time you can order only "Lick My Decals/Spotlight Kid"-double album, I didn´t want that, so I ordered "Clear Spot". I really liked it already then, but I thought "this not as weird as Kauko describes "Lick". Then one of my friend got boyfriend from "Oulu"-town, where are much more Beefheart-fans than in my little village or nearby town and she bought "Doc at the Radar Station" for his boyfriends recommendation. Really loved it immediately!!
In nineties I met one bandmate in a bus and finally he recorded me "Lick My Decals". He recorded first side of "Trout" in the end of cassette, "Moonlight in Vermont" was the one that hit really hard to me!! Then I got a second hand record seller, who sold me albums once or twice a year. One day he sold me "Trout", it was also that Reprise re-press, that time there wasn´t any discogs, so I didn´t know it was originally in "Straight"-label and got also insert (I already wanted original pressings, at least pressings with the original materials that time). Still got that reprise version, but going to some day find the one with insert! |
Excellent post! I was going to say, Beefheart had a couple minor semi national hits in the late 60's with some covers, before the Magic Band took over. I didn't realize you were in Finland until you mentioned it!
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The Captain was certainly one of the greatest visionaries in RIO and AG, so any album that wins would be fine with me. I'll vote for Trout Mask Replica, for very personal reasons, but I really love them all.
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Posted: February 16 2020 at 01:12 |
Manuel wrote:
The Captain was certainly one of the greatest visionaries in RIO and AG, so any album that wins would be fine with me. I'll vote for Trout Mask Replica, for very personal reasons, but I really love them all. |
What are your thoughts on Rockette Morton Mark Boston as a bass player? The more interviews and documentaries I see the more I realize he and Zoot Horn Rollo are the real MVPs for those early sessions putting the songs together! Drumbo too obviously for transcribing Don's ideas to the band. What a wild period in the "Trout House"!
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Posted: February 16 2020 at 01:33 |
Frenetic Zetetic wrote:
Manuel wrote:
The Captain was certainly one of the greatest visionaries in RIO and AG, so any album that wins would be fine with me. I'll vote for Trout Mask Replica, for very personal reasons, but I really love them all. |
What are your thoughts on Rockette Morton Mark Boston as a bass player? The more interviews and documentaries I see the more I realize he and Zoot Horn Rollo are the real MVPs for those early sessions putting the songs together! Drumbo too obviously for transcribing Don's ideas to the band. What a wild period in the "Trout House"! |
I think all the players in Safe as Milk-Unconditionally and Shiny Beast-Icecream are absolutely fabulous! I believe one reason Moonbeams is the least Beefheart sounding is that musicians of it didn´t understand Beefheart-style at all, although of course Captain tried then to be more commercial. And the band really needed Captain, Mallard is OK band, but far away of the greatness of Beefheart. Also, I think many Beefheart songs are very difficult to play, I think that is said also his guitarist Gary Lucas, in this piece you can see the playing seems to hurt:
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Posted: February 16 2020 at 05:58 |
Shiny Beast swings my hips and melts my heart like few other records. Doc, Decals, Clear Spot and Mirror Man are close behind. And TMR=TMI! A bit too much fooling around and not enough beef! |
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Posted: February 16 2020 at 06:44 |
Frenetic Zetetic wrote:
Manuel wrote:
The Captain was certainly one of the greatest visionaries in RIO and AG, so any album that wins would be fine with me. I'll vote for Trout Mask Replica, for very personal reasons, but I really love them all. |
What are your thoughts on Rockette Morton Mark Boston as a bass player? The more interviews and documentaries I see the more I realize he and Zoot Horn Rollo are the real MVPs for those early sessions putting the songs together! Drumbo too obviously for transcribing Don's ideas to the band. What a wild period in the "Trout House"! |
Yes, I think all the band members played a key role in the development f the music, which was quite obviousin the music they put out in that wonderful, magical period.
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Bump because everyone needs some Beefheart in their lives.
Voted Safe as Milk. It's a lot "easier" than most of his later albums, but it was the first Beefheart I heard and has remained an all-time favourite. I could put it on almost anytime, whereas something like Spotlight Kid or Shiny Beast, while excellent, requires certain mood.
Unpopular opinion: I think of Lick My Decals Off, Baby as an improved version of Trout Mask Replica.
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Posted: January 23 2022 at 01:09 |
Hiram wrote:
Bump because everyone needs some Beefheart in their lives.
Voted Safe as Milk. It's a lot "easier" than most of his later albums, but it was the first Beefheart I heard and has remained an all-time favourite. I could put it on almost anytime, whereas something like Spotlight Kid or Shiny Beast, while excellent, requires certain mood.
Unpopular opinion: I think of Lick My Decals Off, Baby as an improved version of Trout Mask Replica. |
Not unpopular at all; anyone with ears can hear that album is a more refined version of the approach used on TMR! Those two are my favorite Beefheart records for a reason. Bellerin' Plain is one of my faves.
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Posted: January 23 2022 at 02:23 |
Frenetic Zetetic wrote:
Hiram wrote:
Bump because everyone needs some Beefheart in their lives.
Voted Safe as Milk. It's a lot "easier" than most of his later albums, but it was the first Beefheart I heard and has remained an all-time favourite. I could put it on almost anytime, whereas something like Spotlight Kid or Shiny Beast, while excellent, requires certain mood.
Unpopular opinion: I think of Lick My Decals Off, Baby as an improved version of Trout Mask Replica. |
Not unpopular at all; anyone with ears can hear that album is a more refined version of the approach used on TMR! Those two are my favorite Beefheart records for a reason. Bellerin' Plain is one of my faves. |
I also voted for Decals for the same reason.
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