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That it's not the top 1000

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Animals > WYWH > DSOTM
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I think Wish You Were Here is the overrated one. Just doesn't have the same punch as Animals or DSOTM or even meddle I guess.
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Originally posted by M27Barney M27Barney wrote:

Originally posted by progmatic progmatic wrote:

DSOM blows away Animals, one of the greatest albums musically and lyrically in my lifetime (63 years)

Er...no it aint...It really should go to a vote...

WYWH > Animals > DSoTM

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Originally posted by dougmcauliffe dougmcauliffe wrote:

I think Animals is their best, but I wont deny DSOTM is a perfect album. If that was their last album, it would probably be top 3 on this website.

I aint going barmy. The pixie who lives in my underwear drawer has comfirmed my sanity...but she agrees with me, DSOTM is closer to AOR than it is to psychedelic or symphonic prog....animals is far better...

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote dougmcauliffe Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 31 2020 at 07:51
I think Animals is their best, but I wont deny DSOTM is a perfect album. If that was their last album, it would probably be top 3 on this website.
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Originally posted by progmatic progmatic wrote:

DSOM blows away Animals, one of the greatest albums musically and lyrically in my lifetime (63 years)

Er...no it aint...It really should go to a vote...
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^ Blimey, Barney is barmy. Blame being a bit too bombed on the balmy berm in Blighty.
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DSOM blows away Animals, one of the greatest albums musically and lyrically in my lifetime (63 years)
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I made no mistake...DSOTM...is very poor when you compare with WYWH and A. Good production does not make it special. I only like one track...ACYL...However, Foxtrot is far superior to my ears....I think that it is a typical dichotomy that splits this site assunder..into sorry hemispheres...

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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by A Bard A Bard wrote:

My Biggest gripe is that Abacab Is not number one. I think of this because Abacab has the best song that will ever be Who Dunnit. This is the best song in the world. it is so good i think it should be the UN's national anthem. I think that Phil Collins should be put as the world Leader because if a man can make a masterpiece like Who Dunnit then he can lead the world in politics. All other forms of media should be destroyed because they distract us from the glorious song that is Who Dunnit. 

Hail Who Dunnit, Hail glorious comrade Phil Collins,Hail Who Dunnit, Hail glorious comrade Phil Collins,Hail Who Dunnit, Hail glorious comrade Phil Collins, Hail Who Dunnit, Hail glorious comrade Phil Collins,Hail Who Dunnit, Hail glorious comrade Phil Collins,Hail Who Dunnit, Hail glorious comrade Phil Collins, 


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Are you one of those listeners that still believes that Phil ruined Genesis, that he is solely to blame for Genesis going pop? If you watch Genesis interviews, you'll see that Rutherford was the first one to be tired of doing progressive, long songs, after all his tearjerker ballad Your Own Special Way is the first proof. 

If you look at the song writing credits for Abacab, Collins wrote only one song - Man on the Corner. 
Banks - Me and Sarah Jane and Rutherford - Like It or Not. All the other songs are all three of them. 

Whodunnit was meant to be a joke, was put on the album as joke, and it started with Banks goofing on the syhths. In the end, it was Banks idea to keep it and put it on the album, instead of You Might Recall. He admits it himself. What has always puzzled me is that they rejected some songs, or used as B-sides that were much better than some of the songs on the album, just listen to the 1976-1992 archives compilation (for example Submarine, You Might Recall, Naminanu). 


 


 No I did not like the direction that genesis went but, i don't think that Phil ruined genesis. Even if everyone stayed they probably would of gone pop.  I didn't do as much research in genesis as you have. I'am just making fun of Who Dunnit and i have nothing against Phil Collins       
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Originally posted by A Bard A Bard wrote:

My Biggest gripe is that Abacab Is not number one. I think of this because Abacab has the best song that will ever be Who Dunnit. This is the best song in the world. it is so good i think it should be the UN's national anthem. I think that Phil Collins should be put as the world Leader because if a man can make a masterpiece like Who Dunnit then he can lead the world in politics. All other forms of media should be destroyed because they distract us from the glorious song that is Who Dunnit. 

Hail Who Dunnit, Hail glorious comrade Phil Collins,Hail Who Dunnit, Hail glorious comrade Phil Collins,Hail Who Dunnit, Hail glorious comrade Phil Collins, Hail Who Dunnit, Hail glorious comrade Phil Collins,Hail Who Dunnit, Hail glorious comrade Phil Collins,Hail Who Dunnit, Hail glorious comrade Phil Collins, 


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Are you one of those listeners that still believes that Phil ruined Genesis, that he is solely to blame for Genesis going pop? If you watch Genesis interviews, you'll see that Rutherford was the first one to be tired of doing progressive, long songs, after all his tearjerker ballad Your Own Special Way is the first proof. 

If you look at the song writing credits for Abacab, Collins wrote only one song - Man on the Corner. 
Banks - Me and Sarah Jane and Rutherford - Like It or Not. All the other songs are all three of them. 

Whodunnit was meant to be a joke, was put on the album as joke, and it started with Banks goofing on the syhths. In the end, it was Banks idea to keep it and put it on the album, instead of You Might Recall. He admits it himself. What has always puzzled me is that they rejected some songs, or used as B-sides that were much better than some of the songs on the album, just listen to the 1976-1992 archives compilation (for example Submarine, You Might Recall, Naminanu). 


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Anyway DSOTM ,never been a massive fan but when it's performed live it's something else. It can be taken as a complete conceptual piece as said. I will always prefer Foxtrot but as someone else said its Apples and Oranges. 
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My Biggest gripe is that Abacab Is not number one. I think of this because Abacab has the best song that will ever be Who Dunnit. This is the best song in the world. it is so good i think it should be the UN's national anthem. I think that Phil Collins should be put as the world Leader because if a man can make a masterpiece like Who Dunnit then he can lead the world in politics. All other forms of media should be destroyed because they distract us from the glorious song that is Who Dunnit. 

Hail Who Dunnit, Hail glorious comrade Phil Collins,Hail Who Dunnit, Hail glorious comrade Phil Collins,Hail Who Dunnit, Hail glorious comrade Phil Collins, Hail Who Dunnit, Hail glorious comrade Phil Collins,Hail Who Dunnit, Hail glorious comrade Phil Collins,Hail Who Dunnit, Hail glorious comrade Phil Collins, 


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Originally posted by M27Barney M27Barney wrote:

 
Aye...im listening to foxtrot now...DSOTM not prog anyway....AOR is it skywalker...

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Originally posted by M27Barney M27Barney wrote:

And good tho Gilmour is....he had to bend his knee to the liquid ghostly hackett master...suppers ready is genius...the AOR effort is not...

"Supper's Ready" is an excellent composition for the most part, but there is nothing really "genius" regarding its make-up. It's just several different snatches of aborted songs (some written by Banks while still at school) welded together with segues. Some themes repeat.

To say DSotM is "AOR" is utter nonsense. In a sense, it is a more complete prog release than Foxtrot, in that the concept of the album is consistent throughout. And sonically speaking, the studio recording of DSotM was light years ahead of Foxtrot, even though they were released within 5 months of each other. Also, the same use of segues from song to song that you consider "genius" on "Supper's Ready" is better used and more fleshed out throughout DSotM. Even "Money" variates from an odd 7/4 time signature to 4/4 on the blues scale lead and then back again.

Your mistake is one I've seen often on PA: that an album cannot possible be progressive if it sold 45 million copies and stayed on the charts for 900 weeks total -- because in order to be prog an album can only have had an original release of 10 copies sold to the band's parents. So Foxtrot may fit that mold, given that it didn't even chart in the States on its first release.
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DSOTM is in the same category as Boston, Styx, Asia, Foreigner??? I don’t think so.^^^
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And good tho Gilmour is....he had to bend his knee to the liquid ghostly hackett master...suppers ready is genius...the AOR effort is not...
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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by A Bard A Bard wrote:

Dark side of the Moon is not better than Foxtrot.


That's a pointless remark since both albums are rated at 4.60. 

They are also "apples and oranges" if you ask me, so comparing them is kinda pointless, too. 

Aye...im listening to foxtrot now...DSOTM not prog anyway....AOR is it skywalker...
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Originally posted by A Bard A Bard wrote:

Dark side of the Moon is not better than Foxtrot.

That's a pointless remark since both albums are rated at 4.60. 

They are also "apples and oranges" if you ask me, so comparing them is kinda pointless, too. 
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