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Poll Question: How would you rate Camel vocals ?
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    Posted: April 07 2020 at 04:48
Well the choice is yours Tongue
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they're fine, good, ok
but not great

and I love Camel.
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I love the music of Camel but for some reason I`m not really into the vocals .. I suppose they are OK Tongue
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Well they have had several different vocalists. I would say their best vocals were by Richard Sinclair and Colin Bass. However I assume this poll is mostly referring to Bardens and Latimer and I take no issue with either of them.
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Somewhere between fair- very good. I prefer Richard Sinclair, though Bardens had a decent voice as well. Latimer is O.K. and Ferguson is kind of bland - pleasant, inoffensive etc.
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I dig them . . .
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From what I remember their record company were shocked when The Snow Goose had no vocals. When they were making Moonmadness they decided they should have vocals but there is a reason why they were "electronically enhanced" so I'm going to say "fair".
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Somewhere between bad and fair I guess. They were great instrumentally, but the vocals are the weak link IMO.
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Originally posted by Blacksword Blacksword wrote:

Somewhere between bad and fair I guess. They were great instrumentally, but the vocals are the weak link IMO.

I agree. Voted for bad because they are (not really bad) but under the average. 
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Originally posted by Enchant X Enchant X wrote:

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Yesterday I wrote my Moonmadness' review saying that the vocals are the weakest point of the album.
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Originally posted by jamesbaldwin jamesbaldwin wrote:

Originally posted by Enchant X Enchant X wrote:

Well the choice is yours Tongue

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Yesterday I wrote my Moonmadness' review saying that the vocals are the weakest point of the album.

Hi,

Considering how different the album is from the previous one, I think that the main issue here might have been a rush job ... if not the lack of funds to record something properly. To me, and my listening, when hearing Camel's albums in order (1st, Mirage, SG and then Moonmadness), I think that something is missing between SG and Moonmadness ... all of a sudden, they were a bit more ... FM radio (American!) oriented, to try and get an audience, and not get buried with a piece they could not sell in America, which, at least in Santa Barbara, Snow Goose got a lot more attention and appreciation, and no complaints on the phone ... than Mirage ... which at the time we brought in as an import ... it had not been released yet! It's almost like Moonmadness was the first American release (not quite, but SG got no help and Mirage showed up late) by the band that got some attention!
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I've no problems with Latimer vocals on Camel. He has a deep voice but it's ok for me.
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can't really answer.  Technically not very good but they work for the music.  And their early 80s incarnations had Chris Rainbow and (possibly) Dave Paton who were2 good vocalists.  Also, who sang "Rose of Sharon" with Mae McKenna?  Seemed pretty good
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Richard Sinclair, Chris Harley and Colin Bass are (or sadly were in the late Chris Harley's case) excellent singers. Bardens and Ferguson were OK and Latimer has matured from competent to a very good performer. But Pete Jones is absolutely amazing, both as a singer and an instrumentalist.
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Somewhere between average and very good
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The vocals are varied in style from album to album, and obviously vocalist to vocalist. I would put them in a 'Good' category (between 'fair' and 'very good' - as at the extremes they are in either category, but mostly they lie between them).
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Average really, but the quality of the musicianship more than compensates.
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Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:

Originally posted by jamesbaldwin jamesbaldwin wrote:

Originally posted by Enchant X Enchant X wrote:

Well the choice is yours Tongue

Are you reading in my mind?

Yesterday I wrote my Moonmadness' review saying that the vocals are the weakest point of the album.

Hi,

Considering how different the album is from the previous one, I think that the main issue here might have been a rush job ... if not the lack of funds to record something properly. To me, and my listening, when hearing Camel's albums in order (1st, Mirage, SG and then Moonmadness), I think that something is missing between SG and Moonmadness ... all of a sudden, they were a bit more ... FM radio (American!) oriented, to try and get an audience, and not get buried with a piece they could not sell in America, which, at least in Santa Barbara, Snow Goose got a lot more attention and appreciation, and no complaints on the phone ... than Mirage ... which at the time we brought in as an import ... it had not been released yet! It's almost like Moonmadness was the first American release (not quite, but SG got no help and Mirage showed up late) by the band that got some attention!
 
Mirage was held up in the US by issues regarding the cover art and the bodged deal over the supposed sponsorship deal between Camel cigarettes and Geoff Jukes And Max Hole, Camels managers.. but it cant have been for long.. ive got US radio 'banded' promo copies of all three lps and Mirage was released on Janus records around the same time as Snow Goose if not a little earlier and featured the awful 'moon-dragon-thing' coverWink

Sorry, back to the OP.. ive always found the vocals on the earlier albums a little under-stated but perfectly in keeping with the music and spirit of the band so i'll go Fair. 

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There's some stuff for which their vocals work very well, even among the old work, like Air Born. They had some technically good solid singers and some (Latimer) who have improved over time. I, too, like Richard Sinclair most. They have always been good at writing melodies that suit their singers. That said, none of them stands out, nobody would ever think of a singer's quality first when it comes to Camel, and that's for a reason. They're nowhere near a Gabriel, Anderson, or Stratos when it comes to uniqueness and character.
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If you listen Camel for the vocals mostly, you're doing it wrong. Of course they are not anything fantastic, but they serve their purpose perfectly.
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