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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

I like Galadriel too, but it didn't make it into my Top 7. If you vote for Galadriel as your #1 song though, that'll place it straight into the overall Top 7. Smile
OK,
1) Galadriel
2) Mocking Bird
3) Medicine Man
4) For No one
5) The World Goes On
6) She Said
7) Song For You
8) Child Of the Universe
9) Hymn
10) Ancient Waves


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Top 7 update, with ILuvMarillion's votes added:-
 
1. Medicine Man (24 points)
2. Mocking Bird (20 points)
3. Dark Now, My Sky (16 points)
4. Ra (13 points)
5. Galadriel (12 points)
5. Suicide (12 points)
5. Mayday (12 points)
 
 
8. She Said (11 points) 
9. Poor Man's Moody Blues (8 points)
9. Hymn (8 points)
9. Child of the Universe (8 points)
 
 
A new entry in the poll for Galadriel


Edited by Psychedelic Paul - July 08 2020 at 16:20
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Ok so here's my list, all from the same album -
 
1) Song for Dying
2) Galadriel
3) She Said
4) Mocking Bird
5) Happy Old World
6) Lady Loves
7) Ball and Chain
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Top 7 update, with Chopper's votes added:-
 
1. Medicine Man (24 points)
1. Mocking Bird (24 points)
3. Galadriel (20 points)
4. She Said (17 points) 
5. Dark Now, My Sky (16 points)
6. Ra (13 points)
7. Suicide (12 points)
7. Mayday (12 points)
7. Song for Dying (12 points)
 
 
10. Poor Man's Moody Blues (8 points)
10. Hymn (8 points)
10. Child of the Universe (8 points)
 
 
Galadriel is now right up there in the #3 slot after just two votes.
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I don't know if anyone has heard the single BJH made in 1972 under the pseudonym of 'Bombadil'? the A side was called 'Breathless' which is a poppy instrumental in a sort of.. er.. Glitter band (yes as in Gary Glitter) multi-tracked hand clap foot stomp beat sort of thing. Listen to the guitar, its very obvious who it is! its credited to 'Terry Bull' (John Lees). The B side is a beautiful little Woolly Wolstenholme song called 'When the city sleeps'.. its a real proper early BJH classic.. credited to 'Lester Forest' (Woolly W). I think they were persuaded to do it thinking it might make the charts as a novelty and earn them back a bit of cash after disastrous tours with an orchestra left them near bankruptcy. It didn't work, the single sank without trace...

I'm rubbish at trying to put links to youtube on here but it is out there and also on various BJH Harvest era compilations.

45cat - Bombadil - Breathless / When The City Sleeps - Harvest ...
Bombadil Breathless 7 Inch | Buy from Vinylnet


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Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:


Ok so here's my list, all from the same album -
 
1) Song for Dying
2) Galadriel
3) She Said
4) Mocking Bird
5) Happy Old World
6) Lady Loves
7) Ball and Chain
Once Again eh ? Can’t believe you place Lady Loves above Ball and Chain ? Anyway, She Said is one of their greatest tracks ever.
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It's interesting how, on the first couple of albums, it seems like Woolly was the lead vocalist on most songs, and most songs were credited to the whole group.  By Short Stories there was more participation from Lees and Holroyd on lead vocal but Woolly still sang quite a bit of lead.   By Baby James it was pretty much, you write it, you sing it.  Woolly's vocals were limited to 0,1, or 2 songs per album until he left.  They were also on very Woolly type songs, bombastic, keyboard oriented epics or mini epics.  Once big exception is one of my very favourite BJH songs, "Harbour" from XII.  It is such a wonderful throwback to the Harvest years IMO.  Yeah it lost out in the poll to the fantastic "Nova Lepidoptera", a great Lees tune
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Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

Ok so here's my list, all from the same album -
 
1) Song for Dying
2) Galadriel
3) She Said
4) Mocking Bird
5) Happy Old World
6) Lady Loves
7) Ball and Chain

No complaint there. Great album.
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Originally posted by Tom Ozric Tom Ozric wrote:

Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:


Ok so here's my list, all from the same album -
 
1) Song for Dying
2) Galadriel
3) She Said
4) Mocking Bird
5) Happy Old World
6) Lady Loves
7) Ball and Chain
Once Again eh ? Can’t believe you place Lady Loves above Ball and Chain ? Anyway, She Said is one of their greatest tracks ever.
To be honest I had very little to choose between either of them, it could have been a tie.
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[QUOTE=kenethlevine]It's interesting how, on the first couple of albums, it seems like Woolly was the lead vocalist on most songs, and most songs were credited to the whole group.  By Short Stories there was more participation from Lees and Holroyd on lead vocal but Woolly still sang quite a bit of lead.   By Baby James it was pretty much, you write it, you sing it.  Woolly's vocals were limited to 0,1, or 2 songs per album until he left.  They were also on very Woolly type songs, bombastic, keyboard oriented epics or mini epics.  Once big exception is one of my very favourite BJH songs, "Harbour" from XII.  It is such a wonderful throwback to the Harvest years IMO.  Yeah it lost out in the poll to the fantastic "Nova Lepidoptera", a great Lees tune[/QUOTE

Woolly did a lot of lead vocals and also played (acoustic) guitar (which he did sporadically, particularly live, right up till he left). Ive just been playing 'Someone there you know' from 'Other short stories' which is a very typical, rather melancholic, Woolly song, sang by himself but credited to the whole band. And of course the gorgeous 'The Poet' from the same lp. Because "Baby James' had been conceived as a double lp, Woolly was off in London working on 'Moonwater' whilst the other three recorded the rest at Strawberry in Manchester.. I think the band and Woolly in particular felt very distant from each other at that point as the funding (and interest) from Harvest evaporated and 'Baby James' was hurriedly mixed and released as a single lp. 


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Originally posted by Cosmiclawnmower Cosmiclawnmower wrote:

[QUOTE=kenethlevine]It's interesting how, on the first couple of albums, it seems like Woolly was the lead vocalist on most songs, and most songs were credited to the whole group.  By Short Stories there was more participation from Lees and Holroyd on lead vocal but Woolly still sang quite a bit of lead.   By Baby James it was pretty much, you write it, you sing it.  Woolly's vocals were limited to 0,1, or 2 songs per album until he left.  They were also on very Woolly type songs, bombastic, keyboard oriented epics or mini epics.  Once big exception is one of my very favourite BJH songs, "Harbour" from XII.  It is such a wonderful throwback to the Harvest years IMO.  Yeah it lost out in the poll to the fantastic "Nova Lepidoptera", a great Lees tune[/QUOTE

Woolly did a lot of lead vocals and also played (acoustic) guitar (which he did sporadically, particularly live, right up till he left). Ive just been playing 'Someone there you know' from 'Other short stories' which is a very typical, rather melancholic, Woolly song, sang by himself but credited to the whole band. And of course the gorgeous 'The Poet' from the same lp. Because "Baby James' had been conceived as a double lp, Woolly was off in London working on 'Moonwater' whilst the other three recorded the rest at Strawberry in Manchester.. I think the band and Woolly in particular felt very distant from each other at that point as the funding (and interest) from Harvest evaporated and 'Baby James' was hurriedly mixed and released as a single lp. 

very interesting background.  Perhaps that's why they didn't even include "Maestoso" on the first Polygram album.  So it was really 2 straight albums with Woolly not singing on any group tracks.  Moonwater is just him on voice and keys and an orchestra.  It's actually not bad, but certainly not as lyrical and impactful as "The Poet/After the Day"
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They could all write a killer song, no doubt.
Judging by Live ‘74, they SHOULD be up there with the best. They are certainly more typically ‘Prog’ than the Moody’s. Perhaps BJH picked up where the most progressive of Moodys left off ? Very overlooked band. Even I’ve overlooked them (I do have several LP’s of theirs that had gathered dust until this poll !)
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Originally posted by Tom Ozric Tom Ozric wrote:

They could all write a killer song, no doubt.
Judging by Live ‘74, they SHOULD be up there with the best. They are certainly more typically ‘Prog’ than the Moody’s. Perhaps BJH picked up where the most progressive of Moodys left off ? Very overlooked band. Even I’ve overlooked them (I do have several LP’s of theirs that had gathered dust until this poll !)

Just recently returned to play Time Honoured Ghosts again after a long interval. Highly underrated record. Better than I remember it. Very Beatles-esque without being too imitative.
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Originally posted by iluvmarillion iluvmarillion wrote:

Originally posted by Tom Ozric Tom Ozric wrote:

They could all write a killer song, no doubt.
Judging by Live ‘74, they SHOULD be up there with the best. They are certainly more typically ‘Prog’ than the Moody’s. Perhaps BJH picked up where the most progressive of Moodys left off ? Very overlooked band. Even I’ve overlooked them (I do have several LP’s of theirs that had gathered dust until this poll !)


Just recently returned to play Time Honoured Ghosts again after a long interval. Highly underrated record. Better than I remember it. Very Beatles-esque without being too imitative.
Sadly, I parted with this LP 20-odd years ago. Oh, regrets......
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The current nine winning songs in the Top 7.....
 
 
1. Medicine Man (24 points)
 
 
1. Mocking Bird (24 points)
 
 
3. Galadriel (20 points)
 
 
4. She Said (17 points)
 
 
5. Dark Now, My Sky (16 points)
 
 
6. Ra (13 points)
 
 
7. Suicide (12 points)
 
 
7. Mayday (12 points)
 
 
7. Song for Dying (12 points)
 
 


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The videos for the three joint runner-up songs.....
 
10. Poor Man's Moody Blues (8 points)
 
 
10. Hymn (8 points)
 
 
10. Child of the Universe (8 points)
 
 
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Couldn't limit myself to just 7, even though they've released VAST swaths of material (i.e. early stuff) that leaves me ice cold.
1) "In Memory of the Martyrs" (by far the best thing they've ever done)
2) "The Great Unknown"
3) "Ballad of Denshaw Mill"
4) "I'm Like a Train"
5) "Paraiso dos Cavalos"
6) "Ring of Changes"
7) "The Song (They Love to Sing)"
8) "Sea of Tranquility"
9) "Spirit on the Water"
10) "A Matter of Time"
 
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Top 7 update, with Steve Wyzard's votes added:-
 
1. Medicine Man (24 points)
1. Mocking Bird (24 points)
3. Galadriel (20 points)
4. She Said (17 points) 
5. Dark Now, My Sky (16 points)
6. Ra (13 points)
7. Suicide (12 points)
7. Mayday (12 points)
7. Song for Dying (12 points)
7. In Memory of the Martyrs (12 points)
 
 
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7. In Memory of the Martyrs (12 points)
 
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There seems to be a marked preference for the Harvest years, though several tracks from  Octoberon seem to be favourites.  Not surprising since that is probably the proggiest of the Polydor years.  I actually think that the Harvest period was very uneven apart from "Once Again", but it did have a number of monster tracks that became live staples and got expanded out in concert
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