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It looks like, I can list two with the present ranking being:

1. Stratosfear
2. Rubycon





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Btw, Sean: have you heard the shelved 1974 soundtrack/score Oedipus Tyrannus yet? Tis a pity it's not made available as a single (double) album release but only physically available on the expensive, 16 CD's In Search of Hades-box (which is still well worth the price). It's available at streaming services such as Spotify though.

I actually think it's up there among their canonized classics in quality - and sort of serves as the transitional missing link between the Ohr and the Virgin years (if that makes sense).

(Those later albums I prefer over Tangram are Logos, Poland, Thief, Exit and Hyperborea. None of them are among my TD top dozen favorites though) 
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Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

Lewian: Yes I noticed Tangram in general is quite cherished. But I don't really enjoy this new soundwise direction and find everything about it less beautiful than all their previous albums (and a handful of following albums). Alpha Centauri to me is a beautifully eerie and hypnotic transcendental listening experience. It's a whole accelerating universe of its own, and doesn't lack anything to my ears. I'll take the youthful post-hippie beginnings of something that matured into Phaedra, rather than the beginning of the end of their relevance (imo) any day. And Tangram doesn't really transport me anywhere.


Indeed, while not offensive to the ears or the mind, Tangram is their first weaker album to that date, well below Meditations, Cyclone or Centauri all of which are placed below it in this poll...

However I'll take Tangram over anything TD has done since (Green Desert apart, but it's really from 73). Logos & Poland are OK, but they're live albums.
For some reasons, with the notable exception of Ricochet, TD's live albums (usually filled with original tracks) are lamer (this is true for Encore as well).




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Lewian: Yes I noticed Tangram in general is quite cherished. But I don't really enjoy this new soundwise direction and find everything about it less beautiful than all their previous albums (and a handful of following albums). Alpha Centauri to me is a beautifully eerie and hypnotic transcendental listening experience. It's a whole accelerating universe of its own, and doesn't lack anything to my ears. I'll take the youthful post-hippie beginnings of something that matured into Phaedra, rather than the beginning of the end of their relevance (imo) any day. And Tangram doesn't really transport me anywhere.
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Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

7. Tangram (34 points)
8. Alpha Centauri (33 points)
Hope these two will eventually swap places. I find the A-side of Tangram somewhat annoying with some real ugly sounding guitar and synths. The B-side is fine, but still a step down from the similarsounding Force Majeure. Alpha Centauri is a visionary classic, historically kind of important and a real trip.

I often prefer more experimental and atonal sounds, but here I'd be with Tangram over Alpha Centauri. Alpha Centauri is big fun and I like it, but it lacks elaboration, whereas Tangram is very confident, mature, and beautiful, and at the same time heralding a new direction. Composition-wise it may not depart that much from Force Majeure, but soundwise for sure. It's quite accessible and melodic but also properly progressive, more than pretty much all that follows.


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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

7. Tangram (34 points)
8. Alpha Centauri (33 points)
Hope these two will eventually swap places. I find the A-side of Tangram somewhat annoying with some real ugly sounding guitar and synths. The B-side is fine, but still a step down from the similarsounding Force Majeure. Alpha Centauri is a visionary classic, historically kind of important and a real trip.
Tangram is one of my Top 7 Tangerine Dream albums, whereas Alpha Centauri wouldn't even make it into my Top 30, but I'm guessing you knew that already. Big smile
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Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

7. Tangram (34 points)
8. Alpha Centauri (33 points)
Hope these two will eventually swap places. I find the A-side of Tangram somewhat annoying with some real ugly sounding guitar and synths. The B-side is fine, but still a step down from the similarsounding Force Majeure. Alpha Centauri is a visionary classic, historically kind of important and a real trip.
Tangram is one of my Top 7 Tangerine Dream albums, whereas Alpha Centauri wouldn't even make it into my Top 30, but I'm guessing you knew that already. Big smile
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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

7. Tangram (34 points)
8. Alpha Centauri (33 points)
Hope these two will eventually swap places. I find the A-side of Tangram somewhat annoying with some real ugly sounding guitar and synths. The B-side is fine, but still a step down from the similarsounding Force Majeure. Alpha Centauri is a visionary classic, historically kind of important and a real trip.
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Top 7 update with Saperlipopette's votes added:-

1. Stratosfear (87 points)
2. Rubycon (85 points)
3. Ricochet (81 points)
4. Force Majeure (80 points)
5. Phaedra (77 points)
6. Zeit (46 points)
7. Tangram (34 points)

8. Alpha Centauri (33 points)
9. Exit (28 points)
10. Encore (22 Points)

11. Cyclone (20 points)
12. Atem (19 points)
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This was really quite difficult:

(10/10)
1. Phaedra
(9/10)
2. Alpha Centauri
3. Rubycon
4. Stratosfear
5. Oedipus Tyrannus
6. Zeit
7. Green Desert

...love these too...

(8/10)
8. Atem
9. Sorcerer
10. Ricochet
(7/10)
11. Force Majeure
12. Encore
13. Poland
14. Hyperborea
15. Exit

...post 1984 I have a hard time with virtually everything I've heard from Tangerine Dream (which is far from everything they've released)
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Top 7 update with Mellotron Storm's votes added:-

1. Stratosfear (83 points)
2. Ricochet (81 points)
3. Force Majeure (80 points)
4. Rubycon (79 points)
5. Phaedra (65 points)
6. Zeit (44 points)
7. Tangram (34 points)
 
8. Exit (28 points)
9. Alpha Centauri (25 points)
10. Encore (22 Points)

11. Cyclone (20 points)
12. Atem (19 points)
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Electronic Meditation
Atem
Encore
Phaedra
Rubycon
Force Majeur
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According to Planet Mellotron their most mellotron laden album is Encore followed by in no particular order Atem, Phaedra and Sorcerer.
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Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Pity that's there seems to be no love for 'modern' Tangerine Dream releases, the best I believe are listed below

The Seven Letters From Tibet
Purgatorio ( I put this No 1 on my list!)
Views From A Red Train (in my top 7 as well)
The Island Of The Fay
Finnegan's Wake
Quantum Gate
Particles (although this appears to be absent from the PA database for some reason)

I would include Kyoto but that was recorded in the early 80's although released later.
It's most likely because not many TD fans have heard those seven more recent albums listed, including me.  Embarrassed


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Pity that's there seems to be no love for 'modern' Tangerine Dream releases, the best I believe are listed below

The Seven Letters From Tibet
Purgatorio ( I put this No 1 on my list!)
Views From A Red Train (in my top 7 as well)
The Island Of The Fay
Finnegan's Wake
Quantum Gate
Particles (although this appears to be absent from the PA database for some reason)

I would include Kyoto but that was recorded in the early 80's although released later.
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I'll have to give Alpha Centauri and Zeit another listen, bearing in mind both albums made it into the final Top 10 line-up, against my expectations. Embarrassed
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Top 7 update with ProfPanglos' votes added:-
 
1. Stratosfear (83 points)
2. Ricochet (81 points)
3. Force Majeure (78 points)
4. Rubycon (76 points)
5. Phaedra (61 points)
6. Zeit (44 points)
7. Tangram (34 points)
 
8. Exit (28 points)
9. Alpha Centauri (25 points)
10. Cyclone (20 points)
 


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1.  Rubycon
2.  Exit
3.  Phaedra
4.  Logos
5.  Stratosfear
6.  Thief
7.  Force Majeure
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The drums on Ricochet were added in the studio. Chris Franke never played live drums with Tangerine Dream.
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Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:

Chris Franke originally was a drummer and percussionist, not only on Ricochet, although they didn't use it that often.

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I would think that if Chris played drums in RICOCHET that they were on tape ... not live. It would be impossible for him to do any kind of drumming considering the incredible complexity of all the machinery that he was in charge of and was able to get them to work every day they played!

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Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:


yep, it was their 'prog phase' from 1976-1979 including an actual human drummer on the Cyclone and Force Majeure albums. I would certainly expect them to poll higher on a prog site than other albums. For me the rest of Stratosfear is overshadowed by the title track while FM is let down by the slightly weak 3rd track Thru Metamorphic Rocks (not a fan of Krautrock which I assume this is meant to be) although the rest is amazing so it makes my list but a bit lower.


Doesn't Ricochet (75) also has real drums?

possibly but to my ears only Cyclone and Force Majeure have proper rock drumming on them which adds another quality. Ricochet is very important though as it pulled together 2 separate eras of TD with the ambient and the prog mixing very well. That said my favourite era of TD is easily 1980-1986.


Listen to Ricochet between 5:00 and 10:00 and the great use of tom drums (no snare or cymbals) - and there is a similar passage on the flipside.




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