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    Posted: November 14 2020 at 16:35
Let's see how this one turns out... Please, do not take it too seriously. Wink
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When I think of Fish, I think of Chris Squire and Yes - not Marillion. Smile
 
I have a feeling Colin Salmon and Walter Trout may be nicknamed Fish too, not to mention Julian Bream. There's a Plaice for all of them.Smile


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I've really tried with post fish Marillion, I just don't like the musical direction they went and I just find his voice grating a lot of times. Some good cuts of Marbles and Seasons end though.
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Never liked Marillion. I tried though. 
I still listen to them every now and then, but...I guess I just don't hear what everyone else is hearing.
I still respect them because of how so many people people her admire them, so they must be doing something good, I just can't hear it (yet).
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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

When I think of Fish, I think of Chris Squire and Yes - not Marillion. Smile
 
I have a feeling Colin Salmon and Walter Trout may be nicknamed Fish too, not to mention Julian Bream. There's a Plaice for all of them.Smile


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Like Genesis............I like both eras of Marillion, why not?? Great music is great music. Plus I think H is a better vocalist than Fish.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote Enchant X Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 14 2020 at 22:36
though I prefer Marillion with fish I still have loads of respect they have done after fish left the band, some really strong material. I'm a big fan of the holidays in eden album ..something I noticed a lot of marillion fans aren't, but I disagree, 100 nights is one of marillions best ever songs ! Tongue

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I'm one of the smart ones. It's your loss if you don't like H-era Marillion.
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Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

Like Genesis............I like both eras of Marillion, why not?? Great music is great music. Plus I think H is a better vocalist than Fish.

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Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

Like Genesis............I like both eras of Marillion, why not?? Great music is great music. Plus I think H is a better vocalist than Fish.

I think he has a wider range and his voice is more recognizable.
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I like everything Marillion did with Fish. With Hogarth they made some very good albums, some OK albums and some disappointing albums - that happens when a band is having a long career. Never understood why you should dismiss a band when they change the singer (or any other member, for that matter...). It is not as if they became radically different in their music; yes, they changed (fortunately), but they remained recognizably Marillion to my ears (with some exceptions).

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I loved Marillion with Fish. I've got all the Fish era albums. When Fish left I was very sad, but I bought the new album from the band, and the solo album from Fish.

Both of them disappointed me.

The chemistry was gone. Fish had the vocal sound I loved, with that Scottish leer, and the intelligent lyrics, and the concepts where themes crossed over between albums.

Combine that with the great musicianship of the band, especially Steve Rothery's guitar, and the result was something special.

I have albums from the Hogarth era, but they just don't hold the same appeal for me.

The Hogarth albums are fairly standard rock. They're not particularly proggy. The musicianship is still good, but, for me, the magic died when Fish left.
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Originally posted by lazland lazland wrote:

Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

Like Genesis............I like both eras of Marillion, why not?? Great music is great music. Plus I think H is a better vocalist than Fish.


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I think the fish era is certainly more " proggy" but I own 5 hogarth albums and enjoy them for what they are. I still have difficulty with Brave but I'm getting there I think.
I have only the first fish album which I found average to be honest.
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Originally posted by Mudpuppy64 Mudpuppy64 wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

When I think of Fish, I think of Chris Squire and Yes - not Marillion. Smile
 
I have a feeling Colin Salmon and Walter Trout may be nicknamed Fish too, not to mention Julian Bream. There's a Plaice for all of them.Smile


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Thanks, and I like your pun too!  Thumbs Up  I thought Steve Hillage may be nicknamed Fish too, but that was just a Red Herring. Smile
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote chopper Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 15 2020 at 05:01
Steve Hogarth turned up on Pointless Celebrities last night which was a bit of a surprise. I like post-Fish Marillion but not a massive fan of his voice, it does grate on me a bit.
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I came to Marillion late in the game (post Fish).  That said I much prefer the Steve Hogarth era.
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Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

Like Genesis............I like both eras of Marillion, why not?? Great music is great music. Plus I think H is a better vocalist than Fish.

true---I don't love all of either period of the band---but I think there is some great stuff from both periods--probably a little more greatness from the H period---they all became better musicians.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote cemego Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 15 2020 at 08:53
I like Fish as vocalist/lyrics better ANY DAY over Hogarth.  I find Hogarth's voice annoying sometimes.  In some cases it just seems like he whispers whole songs.  Drives me nuts.  I have not enjoyed much after the Marillion.com album. 

I will say that Marillion's musicianship is incredible no matter who is singing.


Edited by cemego - November 15 2020 at 08:54
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Originally posted by cemego cemego wrote:

I like Fish as vocalist/lyrics better ANY DAY over Hogarth.  I find Hogarth's voice annoying sometimes.  In some cases it just seems like he whispers whole songs.  Drives me nuts.  I have not enjoyed much after the Marillion.com album. 

I will say that Marillion's musicianship is incredible no matter who is singing.

so you haven't listened to Anoraknophobia, Marbles, FEAR, Sounds that Can't Be Made?
You're missing out IMO. 


Edited by Cristi - November 15 2020 at 09:06
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