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Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

Prog: 2000 albums. Not prog: 3000 albums. There, catalogued.
 
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Originally posted by Mirakaze Mirakaze wrote:

I was in a silly mood evidently and did the same thing:

  1. Jazz rock/Fusion: 50
    Brand X (7), The Brecker Brothers (1), Bruford (3), Centipede (1), Billy Cobham (1), Miles Davis (5), Dedalus (1), Farmers Market (1), Herbie Hancock (2), Hiromi Uehara (1), Allan Holdsworth (1), Mahavishnu Orchestra (3), Al Di Meola (6), Jaco Pastorius (1), Jean-Luc Ponty (6), Return To Forever (4), Squarepusher (2), Weather Report (3), The Tony Williams Lifetime (1)
  2. Symphonic prog: 49
    Camel (7), Emerson, Lake & Palmer (9), Focus (2), Genesis (15), Kaipa (1), Kansas (1), The Nice (1), Rick Wakeman (1), Yes (10)
  3. RIO/Avant-prog: 36
    Ahleuchatistas (1), Fred Frith (1), Geinoh Yamashirogumi (1), Henry Cow (4), Henry Kaiser (1), Mr. Bungle (3), Naked City (1), Rascal Reporters (1), Salle Gaveau (2), U Totem (1), Wha-Ha-Ha (1), Yowie (1), Frank Zappa (17), John Zorn (1)
  4. Canterbury Scene: 35
    Egg (3), Gilgamesh (3), Gong (3), Hatfield And The North (2), Steve Hillage (1), Hugh Hopper (1), National Health (5), Quiet Sun (1), Soft Machine (12), Supersister (2), Robert Wyatt (2)
  5. Eclectic prog: 29
    Adrian Belew (2), Bubblemath (1), Robert Fripp (3), Gentle Giant (8), Steve Hackett (2), Happy The Man (1), King Crimson (17), Storm Corrosion (1), UK (1), Van Der Graaf Generator (1)
  6. Crossover prog: 22
    Tony Banks (2), Electric Light Orchestra (3), Keith Emerson (1), Peter Gabriel (3), The Moody Blues (1), Nine Inch Nails (5), Mike Oldfield (4), Radiohead (2), Supertramp (1)
  7. Psychedelic/Space rock: 18
    Ozric Tentacles (2), Pink Floyd (16)
  8. Heavy prog: 6
    Atomic Rooster (1), Rush (5)
  9. Rock progressivo Italiano: 6
    Area (3), Premiata Forneria Marconi (3)
  10. Post-rock/Math rock: 3
    Aiming For Enrike (1), Nuito (1), Tera Melos (1)
  11. Progressive electronic: 3
    Brian Eno (2), Tangerine Dream (1)
  12. Krautrock: 2
    Can (1), Popol Vuh (1)
  13. Prog folk: 2
    Jethro Tull (2)
  14. Zeuhl: 2
    Magma (1), Ruins (1)
Total: 263
(I forwent the proto-prog and prog-related categories because it became a little too tedious to constantly have to look up which artists are deemed progressive enough to be listed on this site)
I'm jealous now. You have several artists on your list that I wish I had in my CD collection too. Thumbs Up
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Prog: 2000 albums. Not prog: 3000 albums. There, catalogued.
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Good Lord, this is worrying. I’m starting to feel the urge to attempt this myself..... 😱

[EDIT] For the record, no re-organising of my collection. That shall always be alphabetical. But merely interest to see how much I listen to from each of the PA “genres”. The likelihood is, I hope, that after a good night’s sleep this madness will have left my mind. 



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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote Mirakaze Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 17 2021 at 13:04
I was in a silly mood evidently and did the same thing:

  1. Jazz rock/Fusion: 50
    Brand X (7), The Brecker Brothers (1), Bruford (3), Centipede (1), Billy Cobham (1), Miles Davis (5), Dedalus (1), Farmers Market (1), Herbie Hancock (2), Hiromi Uehara (1), Allan Holdsworth (1), Mahavishnu Orchestra (3), Al Di Meola (6), Jaco Pastorius (1), Jean-Luc Ponty (6), Return To Forever (4), Squarepusher (2), Weather Report (3), The Tony Williams Lifetime (1)
  2. Symphonic prog: 49
    Camel (7), Emerson, Lake & Palmer (9), Focus (2), Genesis (15), Kaipa (1), Kansas (1), The Nice (1), Rick Wakeman (1), Yes (10)
  3. RIO/Avant-prog: 36
    Ahleuchatistas (1), Fred Frith (1), Geinoh Yamashirogumi (1), Henry Cow (4), Henry Kaiser (1), Mr. Bungle (3), Naked City (1), Rascal Reporters (1), Salle Gaveau (2), U Totem (1), Wha-Ha-Ha (1), Yowie (1), Frank Zappa (17), John Zorn (1)
  4. Canterbury Scene: 35
    Egg (3), Gilgamesh (3), Gong (3), Hatfield And The North (2), Steve Hillage (1), Hugh Hopper (1), National Health (5), Quiet Sun (1), Soft Machine (12), Supersister (2), Robert Wyatt (2)
  5. Eclectic prog: 29
    Adrian Belew (2), Bubblemath (1), Robert Fripp (3), Gentle Giant (8), Steve Hackett (2), Happy The Man (1), King Crimson (17), Storm Corrosion (1), UK (1), Van Der Graaf Generator (1)
  6. Crossover prog: 22
    Tony Banks (2), Electric Light Orchestra (3), Keith Emerson (1), Peter Gabriel (3), The Moody Blues (1), Nine Inch Nails (5), Mike Oldfield (4), Radiohead (2), Supertramp (1)
  7. Psychedelic/Space rock: 18
    Ozric Tentacles (2), Pink Floyd (16)
  8. Heavy prog: 6
    Atomic Rooster (1), Rush (5)
  9. Rock progressivo Italiano: 6
    Area (3), Premiata Forneria Marconi (3)
  10. Post-rock/Math rock: 3
    Aiming For Enrike (1), Nuito (1), Tera Melos (1)
  11. Progressive electronic: 3
    Brian Eno (2), Tangerine Dream (1)
  12. Krautrock: 2
    Can (1), Popol Vuh (1)
  13. Prog folk: 2
    Jethro Tull (2)
  14. Zeuhl: 2
    Magma (1), Ruins (1)
Total: 263
(I forwent the proto-prog and prog-related categories because it became a little too tedious to constantly have to look up which artists are deemed progressive enough to be listed on this site)
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Originally posted by JD JD wrote:

Originally posted by nick_h_nz nick_h_nz wrote:

I know someone who organizes their collection by record label, which is arguably even crazier than organizing by genre. 🤔

(Sorry, I did some spelling corrections)

This would probably still require the sub division of artist-title-year etc. I would think.
Every sorting hat will require some sort of sub sections

I don’t use American English, so it is not a correction so much as a change - but whatever floats your boat. Odd, though, as I thought Canadians tended not to use American English spellings? Do you write colour or color? 🤔

But otherwise, I’m not sure what you’re getting at. As you say, every form of organisation (or organization?🤷🏻‍♂️) requires a certain degree of sub-sections.

But alphabetising, and then sub-sections within the alphabetising is the simplest form. (Alphabetizing? How often do ‘s’s get changed to ‘z’ in American English?)

As soon are you are organising by any other method, chances are you’re going to be alphabetising at some point within, and then the same sub-sections those that alphabetising will still exist, but now they will be sub-sub-sections. Or something.

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Originally posted by nick_h_nz nick_h_nz wrote:

I know someone who organizes their collection by record label, which is arguably even crazier than organizing by genre. 🤔

(Sorry, I did some spelling corrections)

This would probably still require the sub division of artist-title-year etc. I would think.
Every sorting hat will require some sort of sub sections
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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Here's a list of how I organise my CD collection into 25 separate categories (for anyone who hasn't already seen it). Smile

To be fair, it’s not the actual number of categories that is the problem. I have 26 separate categories (A-Z). 😜

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@Psychedelic Paul Total respect for cataloging your collection but. I’m definitely absolutely 💯 % not doing it



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Originally posted by The Dark Elf The Dark Elf wrote:

Well, I've given up counting how many CDs and albums I have. And you are right, for physical product alphabetizing is the simplest way to go....the Occam's razor of finding a specific CD in a sea of CDs with tiny lettering along their spines. And even then, when you have 20-something Beatles or Jethro Tull or King Crimson CDs, even that takes a minute to find a specific one. And then there are the boxed sets. LOL
Boxed sets and odd-sized digipaks are the only thing that stops my collection from being uniformly alphabetised. I suppose it depends on what kind of shelving/storage unit someone uses, but my shelves don’t allow much extra space in terms of height or depth, so if I can fit something in (including smaller box sets) then I will, but all the rest of the odds and sods have to find a place somewhere else. They are as alphabetised as possible, but because of the varying shapes and sizes, some pragmatism is applied. 🤷🏻‍♂️

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Here's a list of how I organise my CD collection into 25 separate categories (for anyone who hasn't already seen it). Smile
 
 
Alternative Rock/Indie Rock
Box Sets
Classical Crossover
Country
Dance Music
Disco
Easy Listening
Electronica
Folk
Hard Rock
Heavy Metal/Symphonic Metal
Indie Pop
Jazz-Funk/Smooth Jazz
New Age
Pop/Rock groups (2 full racks)
Prog Rock
Psychedelic Pop
Psychedelic Rock
Sophisti-Pop
Soul/Motown
Soundtracks
Synth Pop
Various Artists Compilations
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Originally posted by nick_h_nz nick_h_nz wrote:

Originally posted by The Dark Elf The Dark Elf wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by nick_h_nz nick_h_nz wrote:

I don’t think I could ever find the time to catalog my collection in that way. 😱

It took me about four hours in total to list my entire prog collection, but the time passed really quickly listening to Rick Wakeman at the same time, and I came across several artists who I didn't realise were listed on ProgArchives, so it was time well spent. Smile

When you have hundreds of CDs and albums, just keeping them in alphabetical order is enough of a chore. Breaking individual bands and artists down by genre would be fruitless. Frank Zappa....let's see....he goes under Z, that's it. Not under fusion, doo-wap, musique concrete, orchestral, rock, or whatever. Just Z.

Agreed! I find it amazing that Paul organises his CDs by shelves, where each shelf represents a different genre. I don’t know how I would find anything. I mean, I guess I would get used to it. But anything other than alphabetical order seems additional effort that I personally couldn’t be bothered with. There are too many bands and artists that have traversed multiple genres across their discographies, without even worrying about those who have elements of multiple genres in just one release.

But each to their own. I would say that as his collection gets larger, he might turn to alphabetising, but given he has over 3000 CDs, and still organises/catalogues/shelves his collection by genre, I don’t think he’s going to change anytime soon....

Well, I've given up counting how many CDs and albums I have. And you are right, for physical product alphabetizing is the simplest way to go....the Occam's razor of finding a specific CD in a sea of CDs with tiny lettering along their spines. And even then, when you have 20-something Beatles or Jethro Tull or King Crimson CDs, even that takes a minute to find a specific one. And then there are the boxed sets. LOL
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I know someone who organises their collection by record label, which is arguably even crazier than organising by genre. 🤔

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I wonder if anyone out there arranges their collection by what they smell like.

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I wonder if anyone out there arranges their collection by what they smell like.
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Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

Agree.....for my digital catalog I do have artists by genre using metadata edit software so it shows up when playing. Whether it is 100% accurate based on PA or any other list is not a worry for me, in a lot of cases I have made up genre or sub-genres, I mean it is MY music catalog Big smile.

For my records in my bins they are not in alphabetical order, they are separated by band/artist name. Although I do not mix for example The Flower Kings section is only that, does not include Anderson Stolt LP.

Although sounds like a great Covid stay home project....Catalog everything!

Physical collections are quite different from digital in that way. It is incredibly useful being able to sort or search through a digital collection by metadata (be it year, genre, record label, or whatever else you’ve ascribed to your collection). But for physical, anything other than alphabetical is terribly cumbersome.

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Originally posted by The Dark Elf The Dark Elf wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by nick_h_nz nick_h_nz wrote:

I don’t think I could ever find the time to catalog my collection in that way. 😱

It took me about four hours in total to list my entire prog collection, but the time passed really quickly listening to Rick Wakeman at the same time, and I came across several artists who I didn't realise were listed on ProgArchives, so it was time well spent. Smile

When you have hundreds of CDs and albums, just keeping them in alphabetical order is enough of a chore. Breaking individual bands and artists down by genre would be fruitless. Frank Zappa....let's see....he goes under Z, that's it. Not under fusion, doo-wap, musique concrete, orchestral, rock, or whatever. Just Z.

Agreed! I find it amazing that Paul organises his CDs by shelves, where each shelf represents a different genre. I don’t know how I would find anything. I mean, I guess I would get used to it. But anything other than alphabetical order seems additional effort that I personally couldn’t be bothered with. There are too many bands and artists that have traversed multiple genres across their discographies, without even worrying about those who have elements of multiple genres in just one release.

But each to their own. I would say that as his collection gets larger, he might turn to alphabetising, but given he has over 3000 CDs, and still organises/catalogues/shelves his collection by genre, I don’t think he’s going to change anytime soon....

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^ Thanks for reminding me to include the grand total. Thumbs Up
 
Total number of prog albums across all genres = 565
 
That's out of a total of around 3,000 CD's overall.
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So you did a beautiful job presenting your data in your opening post...then completely blew it by not giving us a total. I hate doing math so I'm not going to add them up myself.

As for my collection, back when we all used paper and pen/pencil, I had my LP's on recipe cards. Included year of release, and track list on A/B sides

When we finally got a PC (1990 I think) I started a spread sheet.
I'm in the final stages of completing it now as I do one more sift through the collection.
Still some blanks to fill in, I have separate tabs for LP's and CD's as well.
Looks something like this...




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Originally posted by The Dark Elf The Dark Elf wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by nick_h_nz nick_h_nz wrote:

I don’t think I could ever find the time to catalog my collection in that way. 😱

It took me about four hours in total to list my entire prog collection, but the time passed really quickly listening to Rick Wakeman at the same time, and I came across several artists who I didn't realise were listed on ProgArchives, so it was time well spent. Smile

When you have hundreds of CDs and albums, just keeping them in alphabetical order is enough of a chore. Breaking individual bands and artists down by genre would be fruitless. Frank Zappa....let's see....he goes under Z, that's it. Not under fusion, doo-wap, musique concrete, orchestral, rock, or whatever. Just Z.
Agree.....for my digital catalog I do have artists by genre using metadata edit software so it shows up when playing. Whether it is 100% accurate based on PA or any other list is not a worry for me, in a lot of cases I have made up genre or sub-genres, I mean it is MY music catalog Big smile.

For my records in my bins they are not in alphabetical order, they are separated by band/artist name. Although I do not mix for example The Flower Kings section is only that, does not include Anderson Stolt LP.

Although sounds like a great Covid stay home project....Catalog everything!
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