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Chick Corea Memorium Poll #1: Return to Forever
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Poll Question: Which is your favorite RTF album?
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15 [33.33%]
7 [15.56%]
1 [2.22%]
21 [46.67%]
1 [2.22%]
0 [0.00%]
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    Posted: August 25 2023 at 05:45

What I also think is, ROMANTIC Warrior should sound more organic than synthetic, and more heavy - looking at the artwork. Wink
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Originally posted by Octopus II Octopus II wrote:

I remember buying 'Romantic Warrior' in 1976 purely because of the fantastic cover artwork.

I was very impressed with the music when I got it home.

Great record! Smile

I also remember very well Romantic Warrior at the time of its release, as I was very much RtF aficionado due to my loving of Where Have You... The Warrior was though a bit of dissapointment for me already at that time, but I surely feel some nostalgic attachment to it today. I'm also happy about my pristine vinyl copy of the original UK release of this album. Tongue
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I remember buying 'Romantic Warrior' in 1976 purely because of the fantastic cover artwork.

I was very impressed with the music when I got it home.

Great record! Smile
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Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

... it represents everything that went/was wrong with this sort of "mainstream fusion" in the mid-to late 1970's. Soulless, sterile w**kery.

Very late comment, but I just like this expression very much and find it so incisive when talking about much of the '80s mainstream Jazz-Rock/Fusion. Tongue 


Edited by David_D - August 24 2023 at 11:39
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I really heartily disliked Romantic Warrior (have not listened to it in many years), and it was one of my earliest forays into the JRF we have at this site back in 2004/2005 due to the acclaim it received. I hugely prefer Chick Corea's Return to Forever album, and I much preferred Light as a Feather, and also Hymn of the Seventh Galaxy (not listened to Hymn much, but...)
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Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

I find Romantic Warrior plain awful and it represents everything that went/was wrong with this sort of "mainstream fusion" in the mid-to late 1970's. Soulless, sterile w**kery.
Actually, I see similar trend in the mainstream '80s Jazz-Rock/Fusion as in Neo-Prog comparing to '70s Progressive Rock, and that is getting (more) synthetic and Pop-influenced.

On the other hand, some of the Jazz-Rock/Fusion around the world included elements of traditional and regional classical music with very fine results.
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These beauties were written after Chick started RTF...
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Originally posted by Easy Money Easy Money wrote:

Chick Corea's best music happened before he started Return to Forever.
Chick's music was brilliant all through his career. One of his last projects, Trilogy, is amazing.
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Chick Corea's best music happened before he started Return to Forever.
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Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

^yes, I agree with you

And I find "soulless", not the same verve as in the '70s, also to be a good characteristic.
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^yes, I agree with you
Originally posted by Grumpyprogfan Grumpyprogfan wrote:

Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

I find Romantic Warrior plain awful and it represents everything that went/was wrong with this sort of "mainstream fusion" in the mid-to late 1970's. Soulless, sterile w**kery.
I respect your opinion but it's wrong. There is nothing sterile or soulless about "Romantic Warrior". It opened the fusion door for me. I find the album oozes with extra soul.
I respect your wrong opinion as well, so we're all being very respectful here:)
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Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

I find Romantic Warrior plain awful and it represents everything that went/was wrong with this sort of "mainstream fusion" in the mid-to late 1970's. Soulless, sterile w**kery.

Actually, I see similar trend in the mainstream '80's Jazz-Rock/Fusion as in Neo-Prog comparing to 70's Progressive Rock, and that is getting (more) synthetic and Pop-influenced.
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Where Have I Known You Before (1974)

I find Romantic Warrior more Progressive but also more polished, synthetic and Pop-influenced.






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Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

I find Romantic Warrior plain awful and it represents everything that went/was wrong with this sort of "mainstream fusion" in the mid-to late 1970's. Soulless, sterile w**kery.
I respect your opinion but it's wrong. There is nothing sterile or soulless about "Romantic Warrior". It opened the fusion door for me. I find the album oozes with extra soul.
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Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

Originally posted by BaldJean BaldJean wrote:

this is my favorite Chick Corea album:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/2a/Return_to_Forever.jpg

Spinning that one right now! Thumbs Up
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Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

Originally posted by Awesoreno Awesoreno wrote:


P.S. Not including Return to Forever (the album) and Light as A Feather as those are more like Chick solo albums. They will be included in another poll.


I think you're wrong (especially about LAAF), but it's your right to be wrongTongueWink
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Hymn for me.
Yeah I don't get it. To me there's no real solo album feel to any of them. Also I much prefer these to anything in the poll. But I like Where Have I Known You Before too so it got my vote. I find Romantic Warrior plain awful and it represents everything that went/was wrong with this sort of "mainstream fusion" in the mid-to late 1970's. Soulless, sterile w**kery.
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Lots of HeartHeartHeart on my account for this beauty (way beyond RTF):



(I wonder where it is on PA's ranking  Pinch LOL  (half) joking...  Tongue ).


Listen to the upbringing Theme To The Mothership, what a beautiful song... with that sort of maritime (or space) ship, trip and/or adventure-starting motive..  fix on the bass.



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Probably. It will go in eras for his solo material, but there will be an Elektric Band poll. I have yet to delve into his solo piano stuff much, so that might come after I've listened a bit. Or who knows? Maybe I'll do it beforehand to get an idea of which ones I should listen to first.
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Originally posted by Awesoreno Awesoreno wrote:

^Be sure to vote for it in my upcoming poll.

Are you doing separate polls for Chick's solo electric albums, the CCEB and Chick's solo piano records?
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