What do we want from the artists?

Nogbad_The_Bad wrote: richardh wrote: Its a prog rock forum so we want prog rock. I get a bit fed up stating a simple fact , this forum wouldn't exist with ELP, Genesis , Yes etc doing their thing when they did it. You can pretend all you like that we all want new music but actually I don't really believe it. We just want a feeling that we had 40 years ago. Trouble is that just isn't happening , not really. The late sixties and early seventies was a unique time for music. It will never likely happen again. Get over it. Anyway where is M27Barney when you need him to talk about panheads or whatever. Speak for yourself and don't assume others are the same. I'm here almost exclusively to explore.

What do I want from artists ? ... Simply to surprise me !

Edited by PhideauxFan - February 26 2021 at 04:25

Catcher10 wrote: Necrotica wrote: chopper wrote: Necrotica wrote: Also, regarding the original post, I really hope you're not referring to my Future Bites review. I specifically stated that I'm fine with Wilson making a pop record as long as it's executed well (see: To the Bone). But to me, it simply was a matter of poor execution and messaging rather than a matter of genre For me, the problem with The Future Bites was the marketing hype that was going on for months before the album came out (I think it was delayed by COVID). It was a smart campaign that seemed to be taking the p*ss out of his own fans and with that type of campaign you're expecting the greatest album ever (I think it was called "OK Computer for the 2010s or something like that) and it's therefore quite likely to be a bit of a letdown for some. EXACTLY! I knew I couldn't have been the only one who had issues revolving around the marketing and messaging as much as the music itself. Not to mention, this is the same guy who constantly criticized technology and phone use, while promoting the damn album on TikTok! I don't mind him using TikTok - there's not much money in music anymore as it is, so good on him for using new marketing strategies - but it's the hypocrisy that bothers me. And unfortunately that's a flaw that runs deep in the album as a whole (especially on Personal Shopper) I agree! I mentioned in the thread about the record that I'm not a fan of this social messaging krapp. If someone wants to spend money on useless stuff, who cares, and for whatever reasons. Although I am sure he is simply playing on that for song subjects, not sure he truly feels that way especially when he is buying expensive LP and CD boxsets of stuff he already has as noted in his most recent What's In My Bag video by Amoeba Records. Not sure I would call him hypocritical, I think he's just using it for topic...... I too think he misses the boat on creating a true pop album, he's not a pop singer or musician like ABBA, Prince or the Beatles (). Plus the musicians he used are not pop musicians, to create a pop albums he's really gonna have to go outside his box of support musicians. Again, that being said I do like the album. If he really, really wants to be a pop star, ain't gonna happen buddy, it's not in his DNA.

You can like SWilson's pop albums all you like Jose. Just don't dis the Beatles in the same post, because SWilson is no better or worse than the Fabs now.

Necrotica wrote: chopper wrote: Necrotica wrote: Also, regarding the original post, I really hope you're not referring to my Future Bites review. I specifically stated that I'm fine with Wilson making a pop record as long as it's executed well (see: To the Bone). But to me, it simply was a matter of poor execution and messaging rather than a matter of genre For me, the problem with The Future Bites was the marketing hype that was going on for months before the album came out (I think it was delayed by COVID). It was a smart campaign that seemed to be taking the p*ss out of his own fans and with that type of campaign you're expecting the greatest album ever (I think it was called "OK Computer for the 2010s or something like that) and it's therefore quite likely to be a bit of a letdown for some. EXACTLY! I knew I couldn't have been the only one who had issues revolving around the marketing and messaging as much as the music itself. Not to mention, this is the same guy who constantly criticized technology and phone use, while promoting the damn album on TikTok! I don't mind him using TikTok - there's not much money in music anymore as it is, so good on him for using new marketing strategies - but it's the hypocrisy that bothers me. And unfortunately that's a flaw that runs deep in the album as a whole (especially on Personal Shopper)

SteveG wrote:   ... Without sounding old and decrepit, any off the wall or different from my comfort zone music that hasn't peaked my interest by now never will at this point in my life. Good bless you younger music fans. You can still be moved by something new and different. And not even know why. You will just know that you like it and that's enough.

chopper wrote: Necrotica wrote: Also, regarding the original post, I really hope you're not referring to my Future Bites review. I specifically stated that I'm fine with Wilson making a pop record as long as it's executed well (see: To the Bone). But to me, it simply was a matter of poor execution and messaging rather than a matter of genre For me, the problem with The Future Bites was the marketing hype that was going on for months before the album came out (I think it was delayed by COVID). It was a smart campaign that seemed to be taking the p*ss out of his own fans and with that type of campaign you're expecting the greatest album ever (I think it was called "OK Computer for the 2010s or something like that) and it's therefore quite likely to be a bit of a letdown for some.

Edited by Necrotica - February 24 2021 at 23:48

BaldJean wrote: ... I want music that is new to me. sometimes I like it at first listening, sometimes it needs repeated listening to be liked, and sometimes it will not be liked ever. but that's fine with me. I want to expand my mind, and for that I have to go into uncharted territory. I will check out any genre of music. but after repeated forays into a certain genre without satisfying results I will no longer explore it

I think it's all about having that "one" album that moves you so much that you'll seek out more music like it and expand your boundaries. Up until my junior year of highschool (when I was about 16) I would only listen to prog or metal music with no other genres interesting me. But one fateful day, following a Devin Townsend and Children of Bodom concert, I decided to give Ghost by Devin Townsend a listen. The relaxing, new age-inspired material astonished me and soothed me at the same time, and all of a sudden there was a whole new world of music that I'd never considered. By that next year, my genre list had expanded to include folk, new age, ambient, indie rock, jazz, pop (don't worry, not just the top 40 pop), and just about everything in between.

Edited by Necrotica - February 24 2021 at 19:52

For once, I agree with mosh. I don't want anything specific from artists because I don't know what I want. I didn't know I wanted hip hop until a few years ago. It all depends on whether at that particular point in time, what the artist makes resonates with me.