Classic Era Prog Drummers

chopper wrote: ... Moon is a bit of an oddity, I've never been able to answer the question about whether he's a good drummer or not. He's all over the place yet somehow it all works and you can't imagine those Who albums without him.

Spaciousmind wrote: Guldbamsen wrote: Spaciousmind wrote: It really hurts to see Keith Moon, John Bonham or Ian Paice missing of a list like this.  Wondering what criteria could exclude them in the period mentioned.  Progressive Rock?  You only have to back and read up the old music papers and their lists to know who was considered top. It’s a little funny, I feel the exact opposite. When I see people making these type of lists and only ever include the usual suspects...and I think to myself ‘how can it be that folks into prog who’ve been digging the genre for decades..never manage to go past the biggies?’ Then again..this is a personal list from the OP. It’s the drummers he finds the best/choppiest (and none of the drummers you mention played in prog bands) If it was me it’d look something like this: Jaki Liebezeit Mani Neumeier Jerzy Piotrowski Jon Hiseman Giulio Cappiozzo Christian Burchard Aynsley Dunbar Michael Walden Pierre Moerlen Phil Collins If you are talking about that time period there was no question that everyone who was into Progressive music would not consider Deep Purple and Led Zeppelin as progressive rock.  Your analogy does not make sense.  That would mean Aynsley Dunbar is blues or Piere Moerlen who only just started at the back end of the poster's timeframe of 1967-1976 is a great based on what?  On his body of work up to 1976?  Answer would be no right?  It's his later body of work that puts him on your list.  So is Pierre Moerlen even applicable to the poster's timeframe?

chopper wrote: Spaciousmind wrote: It really hurts to see Keith Moon, John Bonham or Ian Paice missing of a list like this.  Wondering what criteria could exclude them in the period mentioned.  Progressive Rock?  You only have to back and read up the old music papers and their lists to know who was considered top. Moon is a bit of an oddity, I've never been able to answer the question about whether he's a good drummer or not. He's all over the place yet somehow it all works and you can't imagine those Who albums without him.

BrufordFreak wrote: Please help educate me as to why Jaki Liebezeit is such a marvel. I do not hear it. (In fact, I hear nothing worthy of superlatives in anything by Can. Is it our differing cultural heritages? Our different conditioning?) ...

^I wonder if anyone ever has ever told Carl Palmer and Neil Peart didn't have chops 

No no no! Carl Palmer was a power house drummer and very impressive at it. One of his basic 'tricks' (he readily admitted it) was trying to play ahead of the beat and also he was very keen to fill out the sound. I've listened to ELP since I was thirteen and none of what you are saying makes sense. I recently purchased Pictures on vinyl and Palmer is off the scale amazing but tell me what part of that is about lyrics? It's sheer violence. ELP were sophisticated heavy metal at their best but even they were aware of the pretentious theatrical element of what they were doing and unashamedly so. They were good when they were really good as a band that got their rocks off but not a lot more. They tried to be 'arty' at times and Endless Enigma is a decent example but it hardly typifies the band. King Crimson and Bill Bruford much more closely aligns to what you are getting at though. 

I don't think Michael Giles gets enough love on PA!  He wasn't a Carl Palmer-type smasher, but he sure had a delicate touch on the skins.  

John Densmore of The Doors was a superb drummer. you can clearly hear he had a jazz background in many songs of The Doors