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A Trilogy of Triumvirat

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Poll Question: Which T-Rat Albums sound most like ELP
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    Posted: August 04 2021 at 10:48
We all know the endless argument about ELP vs Triumvirat. Barring that there are some distinct similarities. Key-Bass-Drum trios, power Hammond sound, intricate rhythms, orchestral quality. But I fully accept the differences as well and don't personally think of them as a clone band. I mean, they're not Starcastle for god sake.

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If you had to pick one, which Triumvirat album comes closest to the ELP sound that reinforces that reputation?


Edited by JD - August 04 2021 at 12:15
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Mirakaze Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 04 2021 at 11:02
No Pompeii? Unhappy It would have only been my second choice after Spartacus, but still...
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Progishness Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 04 2021 at 11:45
Triumvirat would seem to be another 70's prog band that passed me by... I'm going to investigate.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote JD Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 04 2021 at 12:16
Originally posted by Mirakaze Mirakaze wrote:

No Pompeii? Unhappy It would have only been my second choice after Spartacus, but still...
Damn, not sure how I missed that one, it doesn't look like I can add more to the poll.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Progosopher Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 04 2021 at 15:18
Illusions sounds more ELPish to me. My favorite is Spartacus.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote presdoug Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 04 2021 at 15:20
I can't really pick one. To me, Triumvirat sound like Triumvirat.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Progfan1958 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 04 2021 at 15:37
Illusions is their closest in IMO, but they are not a copy, just another take on the keyboard led trio format.   Great album.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Manuel Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 04 2021 at 16:45
Originally posted by presdoug presdoug wrote:

I can't really pick one. To me, Triumvirat sound like Triumvirat.
Exactly my thoughts. Triumvirat is Triumvirat, not ELP.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote suitkees Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 05 2021 at 06:33
Definitely, Triumvirat sound like Triumvirat, but I always thought that their album Spartacus (my vote here) and Pompeii were less original (and maybe more ELP-like?) than e.g. Illusions on a Double Dimple or Old Loves Die Hard - my two favourite Triumvirat albums. À la carte is forgettable and Russian Roulette probably their Love Beach (...oh, so it actually would be a contender...?!).

I guess some voters didn't read the poll question (Illusions... is IMO not their most ELP-like album)...


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Triumvirat is not ELP...
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote miamiscot Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 05 2021 at 07:35
Spartacus does sound a little like ELP but none of their others do (IMHO.)

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Heart of the Matter Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 05 2021 at 08:42
Originally posted by felonafan felonafan wrote:

Triumvirat is not ELP...

And that's why I like Mediterranean Tales. Pompeii, even when credited to "New Triumvirat", is a worthy addition to their canon, far better than the last two of the list.
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Illusions On A Double Dimple.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Rednight Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 05 2021 at 10:23
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote richardh Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 06 2021 at 05:42
I voted Illusions before reading the question. That's a great symphonic album. I actually dislike Spartacus because at times Jurgen is just straying too close to Keith Emerson for comfort although overall the album is not particularly ELP like. Illusions on the other hand is much more ELP like stylistically but Jurgen is doing his own thing and not copying. 
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