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Depends on what mood the music has. Quirky and weird stuff usually puts a smile on my face, layered-ness and complexity makes me think, and sad songs made me sad...
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^^^^^^^^to Psychedelic Paul...
   if I hadn't heard Les Baxter's version of "Out Of This World" from CARIBBEAN MOONLIGHT as a child, I wouldn't have been able to appreciate Pink Floyd as a teen.  and hence, I would never have created SPACE PIRATE RADIO in 1973.  and 48 years later, I still play Les Baxter.  it always sounds just right after something like Can, Magma, or any of the new kids on the block.  & don't get me started on Martin Denny & the soundtrack to FORBIDDEN PLANET.  *giggles*  thanks.


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Originally posted by Guy Guden Guy Guden wrote:

^^^^^^^^to Psychedelic Paul...
   if I hadn't heard Les Baxter's version of "Out Of This World" from CARIBBEAN MOONLIGHT as a child, I wouldn't have been able to appreciate Pink Floyd as a teen.  and hence, I would never have created SPACE PIRATE RADIO in 1973.  and 48 years later, I still play Les Baxter.  it always sounds just right after something like Can, Magma, or any of the new kids on the block.  & don't get me started on Martin Denny & the soundtrack to FORBIDDEN PLANET.  *giggles*  thanks.
It's good to see there's at least two other fans (incl. Logan) of Les Baxter's space age exotica on ProgArchives. Space Pirate Radio sounds like my kind of radio station. Thumbs Up
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Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

^^^^ Paul, I know some Les Baxter, including that track. I like it. Sven Libaek's Imner Space is one of my favourites of a certain kind of loungey ilk I like and Stringtronics with Mindbender. Roger Roger, who was with Mindbender, is one of my favourites of the "easy-listening" tropica variety. A have a fair amount of library music of that ilk in my collection

Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:

Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

I'm reminded of your not like Robert Wyatt's Rock Bottom. In that case Wyatt was dealing with the trauma and paralysis from his accident, and again I see it as life-affirming and so poignant. The circumstances make the album all the more special to me, and generates an empathetic response in me. That said, I loved Rock Bottom before I even knew the history behind it.


Interestingly I knew the story before getting the album, but the album itself, which I love a lot and to which I feel a strong emotional connection, never reminded me of that story. I thought of it maybe once or twice when listening more superficially, but when I listen to it with full awareness, the story is never there for me to be felt or thought of. Strange, eh?


People make different connections and are wired differently. Art itself is so interpretive and each listener's experience will not be quite the same and not quite the same for the same person at different times. It's not something that I am as aware of when listening to Rock Bottom as with Bowie's condition when listening to Blackstar, nor can I say that it's always in mind when playing that stony behind. Knowing Wyatt's story just made the album all the more poignant to me whether I'm consciously, subconsciously or at all thinking about that when listening to the album or not, or if it's when I'm talking about it with others. Just thinking about it alone, or just discussing it, adds an air of poignancy to the album whether I'm listening to it or not. Often my greater appreciation of albums and emotional resonance can be linked to a story -- be it what I was doing when I heard it, if it's a soundtrack and I associate the music with the film or that it speaks to my story (including my experiences with those I know and care about) in some way as I perceive it. That said, just the name Rock Bottom alone would remind me of what happened.
It's a good point that people process music differently. This is something that took me a long, long time to realize. Music is such an individual listening experience, and that's why I wanted to know how others might experience it.
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Listening to music (any kind) is like having a close friend nearby. Someone with whom you can just be your own boring self without any awkward feelings or judgment.
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What doesn't music do?



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^ I knew someone who claimed that music did nothing for them and couldn't appreciate any of it.
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Let me guess...it was one of these guys. LOL





Edited by JD - September 04 2021 at 11:48
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LOL That seems about right as the type.
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Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

^ I knew someone who claimed that music did nothing for them and couldn't appreciate any of it.


There will always be an odd one or two for sure.


"We're going to need a bigger swear jar."

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Originally posted by Progishness Progishness wrote:

What doesn't music do?



That certainly applies to me, as do the heartfelt lyrics of this John Miles song....

Music was my first love
And it will be my last
Music of the future
And music of the past
To live without my music
Would be impossible to do
In this world of troubles
My music pulls me through.

Amen to that. Heart
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My temperament or choice of what I listen to is not determined by my emotional reaction to any given piece of music. It's art and might be perceived as happy, sad and all points in-between but just because it moves me doesn't make it real. That said, I would probably be inconsolable if I had to live my life without music
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erections 
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Originally posted by Man With Hat Man With Hat wrote:

erections 

imagined or real? LOL
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Originally posted by ExittheLemming ExittheLemming wrote:

My temperament or choice of what I listen to is not determined by my emotional reaction to any given piece of music. It's art and might be perceived as happy, sad and all points in-between but just because it moves me doesn't make it real

How is being moved not real?
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Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:

Originally posted by ExittheLemming ExittheLemming wrote:

My temperament or choice of what I listen to is not determined by my emotional reaction to any given piece of music. It's art and might be perceived as happy, sad and all points in-between but just because it moves me doesn't make it real

How is being moved not real?


My being moved is real but the stimulus or source is artificial/manufactured. It's art (not reality)
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I still don't get it. How is there a conflict between being manufactured and real? Chances are you wouldn't say a hammer and a nail are not real; also a painting or sound waves are pretty much as real as it gets, aren't they?

So the source is real, your perception is real (it can probably be physically traced in your brain), your being moved is real, so what is not real? 

Are you saying that it is not real (in the sense of not being an objective fact) that musical piece XYZ is, say, "happy"? But obviously happiness is a subjective sentiment, so shouldn't be ascribed to the piece itself but rather to its reception by a specific person, for whom, again, this is very real (for a given point in time). The thread question expresses this properly ("what does it do for you"), so what's your issue with that?

(I'm asking out of philosophical interest by the way. I suspect you have some background or at least interest in that direction, so I try to figure out whether what you're claiming here is of interest to me - not assuming that it is nonsense just because it doesn't make sense to me at first sight.)
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Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:

I still don't get it. How is there a conflict between being manufactured and real? Chances are you wouldn't say a hammer and a nail are not real; also a painting or sound waves are pretty much as real as it gets, aren't they?

So the source is real, your perception is real (it can probably be physically traced in your brain), your being moved is real, so what is not real? 

Are you saying that it is not real (in the sense of not being an objective fact) that musical piece XYZ is, say, "happy"? But obviously happiness is a subjective sentiment, so shouldn't be ascribed to the piece itself but rather to its reception by a specific person, for whom, again, this is very real (for a given point in time). The thread question expresses this properly ("what does it do for you"), so what's your issue with that?

(I'm asking out of philosophical interest by the way. I suspect you have some background or at least interest in that direction, so I try to figure out whether what you're claiming here is of interest to me - not assuming that it is nonsense just because it doesn't make sense to me at first sight.)


Your suspicions are unfounded (I have no interest in yet another semantic pillow fight with a post modernist like yourselfWink) I can read a story about a fictional character in a novel, about whom my empathy derives from the author's skillful/manipulative description. My emotional response is real but it's from a fictitious/made up source e.g. grieving over the death of someone who never actually lived.
Music is possibly one of the most abstract of all the art-forms so as to why something like Bartok's Dance Suite makes me cry is probably unfathomable. Although I know my tears  are physically real, they are effectively vicarious i.e. I can be affected by other's depictions of their own experiences but if I haven't lived them I cannot share them so would probably be guilty of a certain amount of bad faith/hypocrisy


Edited by ExittheLemming - September 08 2021 at 07:35
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