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Gentle and Giant 
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Red for me.
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Oh, for the wings of any bird, other than a battery hen
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Argo2112
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Posted: September 29 2021 at 14:17 |
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Defiantly Red for me.
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Posted: September 29 2021 at 16:06 |
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Relayer, but I notice a glimpse of contest here.
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jamesbaldwin
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Posted: September 29 2021 at 18:55 |
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Red is a masterpiece from the beginning to the end.
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"Happiness is real only when shared"
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Necrotica
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Posted: September 29 2021 at 19:16 |
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As much as I love Relayer, Red is my favorite King Crimson album and one of my top 10 prog albums in general; so I've gotta go with the latter. Now, if this was against Close to the Edge instead, it would be much tougher to decide between the two.
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Take me down, to the underground
Won't you take me down, to the underground Why oh why, there is no light And if I can't sleep, can you hold my life https://www.youtube.com/@CocoonMasterBrendan-wh3sd |
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omphaloskepsis
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Posted: September 29 2021 at 20:00 |
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Relayer
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The Dark Elf
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Posted: September 29 2021 at 20:07 |
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Although Providence is a dreadful bore, there are better compositions on Red overall.
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...a vigorous circular motion hitherto unknown to the people of this area, but destined
to take the place of the mud shark in your mythology... |
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siLLy puPPy
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Posted: September 29 2021 at 20:53 |
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Redlayer
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Posted: September 29 2021 at 20:56 |
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Perfect
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Posted: September 29 2021 at 21:26 |
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I voted Relayer, just because of Gates of Delirium... but now I'm not so sure, because overall Red is a better album, and Starless is just as brilliant as the single outstanding song, even though I prefer it live (however, that's just the same for Gates).
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richardh
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Posted: September 30 2021 at 00:24 |
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I'm obsessed with Red (my vote) and still haven't got through all that box set which is my most expensive music purchase ever. Relayer has the magnificent Gates but the rest I don't care for much.
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Frenetic Zetetic
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Posted: September 30 2021 at 02:00 |
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Red is good, but Relayer wipes the floor with it in all capacities IMHO. Note for note, track for track, second by second.
Red also has horrible mastering and volume EQ working against it for me. Also a few boring tracks that kill the pacing and displace the opener and closer tracks for me.
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"I am so prog, I listen to concept albums on shuffle." -KMac2021 |
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Posted: September 30 2021 at 02:11 |
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Can't believe Red is out in front... Relayer is Yes at the top of their game
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Posted: September 30 2021 at 02:41 |
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classic KC is usually the easy winner in polls.
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Rick1
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Lol - where were all their fans back in 74? Deserting them, that's what!
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Cristi
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Deserting them? How and why?
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Well, wasn't that their worst performing album of the 70s (apart from their live albums) - so people had stopped buying their stuff? Their first two were top 10 but went down after...
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Cristi
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I've never heard or read anything about that. Red is also one of their most popular albums these days, so I don't know. That's why I asked.
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Posted: September 30 2021 at 04:51 |
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Red was their lowest charting album in the 70's, reaching number 45 in the UK. Surprising, I think.
Their highest charting album was ITWOP reaching number 4 in the charts (ITCOTCK got to 5) According to Wikipedia. |
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Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy!
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My CD has excerpts of some of the newspaper/zine reviews of the album from back then and they were pretty mixed. The critics pretty much missed the bus with this one.
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