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Drama vs Peter Gabriel III (Melt)

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote lazland Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 02 2021 at 12:31
Melt is one of the finest albums ever made, a work which even after 40 years is still played regularly and holds a very special place in my collection. It was just about the perfect fusion of post punk rock, progressive rock, electronic rock, experimentation, and the most nailed on political statements ever put to music. About as perfect an album as it is possible to be released. Full of emotion and absolutely biting in its execution.

Drama, by contrast, is absolutely none of the above. About as dull as it gets. Sorry…….
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote suitkees Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 02 2021 at 11:21
^ It is; I completely agree with this. But this is also the downside of this kind of binary polls: we have to chose between two great albums (in my perspective) and then argument why we prefer one over the other. Personally I have much pleasure listening to both.

On the other hand, we also discover that some just don't like real prog...
Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

I don't like the classic opening track on Drama, "Machine Messiah", and it doesn't improve for me as the album moves on.  It's due to albums such as this that I don't think of myself as a Prog fan.

And this is an admin... Maybe, we all should undergo a prog affinity test to see if we are worthwhile members of PA.... Tongue


PS: I might not pass the test myself, BTW...




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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote The Dark Elf Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 02 2021 at 10:37
Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Yes, it has to be Drama, bearing in mind I can't name any of the songs on Peter Gabriel 3. Embarrassed

Not even Biko?

It's very close call for me but I'd probably go for PG.

I would have said, "Not even Games Without Frontiers?"  That is one of my very favourite songs that has been an "in regular rotation" staple of classic rock radio here.  I'm glad Peter Gabriel moved on from Genesis into his "solo" career.

I hugely prefer Melt.  I don't like the classic opening track on Drama, "Machine Messiah", and it doesn't improve for me as the album moves on.  It's due to albums such as this that I don't think of myself as a Prog fan.   I tried to listen through it again, but it is dreadful to these ears.

Paul, you're missing out on one of the great albums of the 1980s. From the song "The Intruder" with the sinister Peter Lorre whistle (from the movie "M", where Lorre is a whistling serial killer) all the way to the anti-apartheid anthem "Biko'' it is a splendid progressive concept album featuring folks like Robert Fripp, Kate Bush, Phil Collins and Tony Levin. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Logan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 02 2021 at 10:01
Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Yes, it has to be Drama, bearing in mind I can't name any of the songs on Peter Gabriel 3. Embarrassed

Not even Biko?

It's very close call for me but I'd probably go for PG.

I would have said, "Not even Games Without Frontiers?"  That is one of my very favourite songs that has been an "in regular rotation" staple of classic rock radio here.  I'm glad Peter Gabriel moved on from Genesis into his "solo" career.

I hugely prefer Melt.  I don't like the classic opening track on Drama, "Machine Messiah", and it doesn't improve for me as the album moves on.  It's due to albums such as this that I don't think of myself as a Prog fan.   I tried to listen through it again, but it is dreadful to these ears.


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote chopper Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 02 2021 at 09:48
Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Yes, it has to be Drama, bearing in mind I can't name any of the songs on Peter Gabriel 3. Embarrassed

Not even Biko?

It's very close call for me but I'd probably go for PG.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote TerLJack Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 02 2021 at 09:29
Drama is great, but Melt is even greater.  
I also think "Family Snapshot," "Biko," and "Intruder" stand taller lyrically than anything on Drama.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote HeyItsJustJP Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 02 2021 at 08:50
Enjoy both, but Melt is just on a totally different level for me.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Earl of Mar Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 02 2021 at 08:42
I dont like Gabriel's workmafter the second album very much. Melt except for a few tracks is not a favourite and I was disappointed after what I thought were two fine, interesting, varied albums.
So its Drama for me.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Artik Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 02 2021 at 07:27
Sure it's Drama!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote maryes Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 02 2021 at 05:05
Originally posted by Argo2112 Argo2112 wrote:

Drama easily for me. 

I agree

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Frenetic Zetetic Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 02 2021 at 02:39
I have chunks of DRAMA songs in my head, daily, without consciously trying lol.

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Drama.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote cstack3 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 02 2021 at 01:11
"Melt," if only for the track "Biko." 

I don't know "Drama" very well, and the Buggles era of Yes never interested me much.  
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote Sacro_Porgo Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 02 2021 at 00:38
I do think this is another one of those polls that sets up the divide between "prog" and "progressive" quite nicely. 

Melt is a pretty obviously progressive album, even if only for introducing the world to the drum sound of the 80s (which Phil subsequently took directly over to Face Value and made it world famous). That said, it doesn't retain much of the "prog" style that much of the music on this site is based in. No 20 minute suites, or even 10 minute epics. The closest you get is a multi-section story song "Family Snapshot" and a seven minute slow build "Biko." This album is all about new sounds, new production techniques, unusual song ideas, atmospherics and moods. The epitome of "art rock" if you ask me.

Drama on the other hand is pretty obviously a "prog" album. While it does contain elements that are pushing music forward (thank you The Buggles), it centers mainly on a harder edged prog style for most of the album that isn't terribly far off from the music Yes had already been making throughout the 70s, if a little meaner. You do get a 10 minute epic in "Machine Messiah," and another lengthy proggy gem in "Into The Lens." 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote twosteves Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 01 2021 at 20:50
hard choice --as PG is more of an artistic creative record and Drama is easy to listen to.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Dellinger Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 01 2021 at 19:37
I would like to vote for Drama, but I don't know Gabriel's album, so I really can't. However, for what little I checked out some time ago, Melt was the album that interested me the most from Grabriel solo, besides the live album from around the same time.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Cristi Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 01 2021 at 17:44
Originally posted by The Dark Elf The Dark Elf wrote:

PGIII and it's not even vaguely close. It's a great album. Drama simply is not. It's not even a good Yes album. 

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote The Dark Elf Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 01 2021 at 17:34
PGIII and it's not even vaguely close. It's a great album. Drama simply is not. It's not even a good Yes album. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote suitkees Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 01 2021 at 15:55
Gabriel's album is really great and I listen to it regularly with much pleasure, but Drama is just something special, very special, in my book.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Catcher10 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 01 2021 at 15:18
Melt (III) by a lot......Drama has a boring feel to it.
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Drama, but not by much.
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