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Drama vs Peter Gabriel III (Melt)
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Drama has some good moments but definitely not the Yes I like
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gentle bump! Smile
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Peter Gabriel III
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Gabriel pushed the limits here whereas Yes had ceased to be progressive by 'Drama'.  
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^ disagree with the 'ceased to be progressive', Drama was definitely not a copy and paste exercise in my view . Yes were still pushing even with 90125 but after that it was a bit off the end of a cliff re the progressive thing admittedly.
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Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

^ disagree with the 'ceased to be progressive', Drama was definitely not a copy and paste exercise in my view . Yes were still pushing even with 90125 but after that it was a bit off the end of a cliff re the progressive thing admittedly.

Fully agree with the above!!!
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Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

^ disagree with the 'ceased to be progressive', Drama was definitely not a copy and paste exercise in my view . Yes were still pushing even with 90125 but after that it was a bit off the end of a cliff re the progressive thing admittedly.

Agreed.

Honestly, I've always seen Drama/90125 as Yes' version of Genesis' ATTWT/Duke duology. All are transitional records - Drama/ATTWT being pop-oriented prog rock, and 90125/Duke being prog-oriented pop rock.

And then Big Generator is basically their Invisible Touch, minus the massive sales figures LOL


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Why oh why, there is no light
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Originally posted by Necrotica Necrotica wrote:

And then Big Generator is basically their Invisible Touch, minus the massive sales figures LOL

I can listen to Big Generator without skipping any songs, but with Invisible Touch it's not the case, at all. Big smile
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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Necrotica Necrotica wrote:

And then Big Generator is basically their Invisible Touch, minus the massive sales figures LOL

I can listen to Big Generator without skipping any songs, but with Invisible Touch it's not the case, at all. Big smile

A better comparison would be Big Generator and We Can't Dance, neither of which I can listen to all the way through. Invisible Touch I can sit through.
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Originally posted by Steve Wyzard Steve Wyzard wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Necrotica Necrotica wrote:

And then Big Generator is basically their Invisible Touch, minus the massive sales figures LOL

I can listen to Big Generator without skipping any songs, but with Invisible Touch it's not the case, at all. Big smile

A better comparison would be Big Generator and We Can't Dance, neither of which I can listen to all the way through. Invisible Touch I can sit through.

I enjoy WCD more than IT, but Big Generator is more enjoyable than both Genesis albums. 
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Originally posted by Necrotica Necrotica wrote:

Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

^ disagree with the 'ceased to be progressive', Drama was definitely not a copy and paste exercise in my view . Yes were still pushing even with 90125 but after that it was a bit off the end of a cliff re the progressive thing admittedly.

Agreed.

Honestly, I've always seen Drama/90125 as Yes' version of Genesis' ATTWT/Duke duology. All are transitional records - Drama/ATTWT being pop-oriented prog rock, and 90125/Duke being prog-oriented pop rock.

And then Big Generator is basically their Invisible Touch, minus the massive sales figures LOL
While I hear some pop in Drama, I would hesitate to call it pop rock overall. Certainly not tracks like Into the Lens, White Car, MACHINE MESSIAH, Tempus Fugit...
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Originally posted by Awesoreno Awesoreno wrote:

Originally posted by Necrotica Necrotica wrote:

Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

^ disagree with the 'ceased to be progressive', Drama was definitely not a copy and paste exercise in my view . Yes were still pushing even with 90125 but after that it was a bit off the end of a cliff re the progressive thing admittedly.

Agreed.

Honestly, I've always seen Drama/90125 as Yes' version of Genesis' ATTWT/Duke duology. All are transitional records - Drama/ATTWT being pop-oriented prog rock, and 90125/Duke being prog-oriented pop rock.

And then Big Generator is basically their Invisible Touch, minus the massive sales figures LOL
While I hear some pop in Drama, I would hesitate to call it pop rock overall. Certainly not tracks like Into the Lens, White Car, MACHINE MESSIAH, Tempus Fugit...

And that's why I called it pop-inspired prog, rather than the other way around. Hell, Machine Messiah might have just been one of the first prog metal songs ever Smile
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Won't you take me down, to the underground
Why oh why, there is no light
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Originally posted by BrufordFreak BrufordFreak wrote:

I know Peter Gabriel was revolutionary for its time but it has not aged well.
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