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'The Last Domino' tour appears to have sparked a re-evaluation of their later albums as a trio (* excluding the anomalous 'Calling All Stations')

And then there were three.

Great album, I've always loved it. It would be in my Genesis top 5.

Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy!

ATTWT gets the nod for this round.

The last bit of prog left in the band ;-)

Welcome to the middle of the film.

None of them enthuse me much. None are outright bad and all contain some good music, but all contain too much indifferent material.

If pushed, I'd probably vote for ATTWT, but I just can't be arsed.

Edited by Hercules - December 07 2021 at 07:44

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Jared wrote:

ATTWT by a margin from Duke..

I've always felt a bit sorry for this album which deserves more love than it gets... the style is still more in keeping with W&W, but the absence of Steve is glaring, requiring the songs to be structurally simpler. I think they should have replaced him in the band.

The other opportunity missed was on Three Sides Live.. the first disk treats the better material from Duke & Abacab very well and ironically I prefer it to the 2nd which admittedly had older, better material on it, but is a bit of a medley hotch-potch from 1980 & 1976.. I wish they had given up some of this space to some of the better tracks from ATTWT, especially Down & Out, Burning Rope & SFAND, which would have made the live album more coherent and raised the profile of a relatively unloved studio offering...

I agree regarding TSL. Inclusion of The Lady Lies and Burning Rope at the very least would have made for a better package.

By all accounts they only ever played Down & Out a couple of times, before dropping it from the 1978 live set. Legend has it, that Chester didn't like the way he played it, compared to how Collins played it in the studio, and the track lost some of its 'vibe' live. I didn't think it too bad..

Down & Out live

The German tribute band The Farm play a good version.

The Farm - Down & Out

Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy!

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I think I'm getting old and tired ....... zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!

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ATTWT is a prog album with strong pop leanings as opposed the rest which are pop albums with scattered prog leanings.

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...and then there were three... But none of them are in my favorite list.

Still get a thrill listening to Duke. Marvellous album, although there are strong points and tracks in all of them.

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Jared wrote:

ATTWT by a margin from Duke..

I've always felt a bit sorry for this album which deserves more love than it gets... the style is still more in keeping with W&W, but the absence of Steve is glaring, requiring the songs to be structurally simpler. I think they should have replaced him in the band.

The other opportunity missed was on Three Sides Live.. the first disk treats the better material from Duke & Abacab very well and ironically I prefer it to the 2nd which admittedly had older, better material on it, but is a bit of a medley hotch-potch from 1980 & 1976.. I wish they had given up some of this space to some of the better tracks from ATTWT, especially Down & Out, Burning Rope & SFAND, which would have made the live album more coherent and raised the profile of a relatively unloved studio offering...

Yup.

And though Duke has got some better moments, it's also got some pretty bad ones (at least, FYFH was easily skipped on ATTWT). One of the things that really struck back then was the meaning of ATTWT's opening track Down & Out.

I actually disliked both albums upon release time (given what they'd given up), but as time wore on, both grew a bit on me. I've even done a CDr compilation some 20 years ago with 80% from those two albums and three tracks from Shape's A-side.

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as well as a thinker,
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rather than un-sheath our sword

Poll Question: Your favourite trio album?*
Poll Choice	Votes	Poll Statistics
...and then there were three...	27	[38.03%]
Duke	29	[40.85%]
Abacab	5	[7.04%]
Genesis	4	[5.63%]
Invisible Touch	5	[7.04%]
We Can't Dance	1	[1.41%]
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