Genesis re-evaluated |
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Rick1
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Posted: December 07 2021 at 06:49 |
'The Last Domino' tour appears to have sparked a re-evaluation of their later albums as a trio (* excluding the anomalous 'Calling All Stations')
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And Then There Were Three
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Blacksword
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And then there were three.
Great album, I've always loved it. It would be in my Genesis top 5. |
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Is it anywhere? Do they stop and stare? Do they really care?
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ATTWT gets the nod for this round.
The last bit of prog left in the band ;-)
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ATTWT by a margin from Duke..
I've always felt a bit sorry for this album which deserves more love than it gets... the style is still more in keeping with W&W, but the absence of Steve is glaring, requiring the songs to be structurally simpler. I think they should have replaced him in the band. The other opportunity missed was on Three Sides Live.. the first disk treats the better material from Duke & Abacab very well and ironically I prefer it to the 2nd which admittedly had older, better material on it, but is a bit of a medley hotch-potch from 1980 & 1976.. I wish they had given up some of this space to some of the better tracks from ATTWT, especially Down & Out, Burning Rope & SFAND, which would have made the live album more coherent and raised the profile of a relatively unloved studio offering...
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None of them enthuse me much. None are outright bad and all contain some good music, but all contain too much indifferent material.
If pushed, I'd probably vote for ATTWT, but I just can't be arsed.
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easily Duke--although I like them all---I agree with Tony on ATTWT----it lacks Hackett and you can tell--would have been a classic with his input....but with DUKE they find their footing as a 3 piece and the Duke suite is great.
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I agree regarding TSL. Inclusion of The Lady Lies and Burning Rope at the very least would have made for a better package. By all accounts they only ever played Down & Out a couple of times, before dropping it from the 1978 live set. Legend has it, that Chester didn't like the way he played it, compared to how Collins played it in the studio, and the track lost some of its 'vibe' live. I didn't think it too bad.. Down & Out live The German tribute band The Farm play a good version. The Farm - Down & Out |
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Definitely "...And Then There Were Three...".
In my opinion this is their last album still with prog lines all over it. It has shorter songs but where it can reminds us the Genesis prog style, despite the absence of the guitar of Hackett.
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The trio albums, ranked best to worst:
1) Abacab 2) Duke 3) Genesis (Shapes) 4) And then there were three 5) We can't dance 6) Invisible Touch
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ATTWT is a prog album with strong pop leanings as opposed the rest which are pop albums with scattered prog leanings.
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Duke for me here but I do like several tracks on Abacab & shapes as well.
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...and then there were three... But none of them are in my favorite list.
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Duke is the only worthy one.
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Still get a thrill listening to Duke. Marvellous album, although there are strong points and tracks in all of them.
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The first (ATTW3) still had a bit of Hackett color and imagery in it (though that was quickly lost afterwards). Even in some of the solos - like Burning Rope - Mikey did his best to keep the spirit going.
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Yup. And though Duke has got some better moments, it's also got some pretty bad ones (at least, FYFH was easily skipped on ATTWT). One of the things that really struck back then was the meaning of ATTWT's opening track Down & Out. I actually disliked both albums upon release time (given what they'd given up), but as time wore on, both grew a bit on me. I've even done a CDr compilation some 20 years ago with 80% from those two albums and three tracks from Shape's A-side.
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ATTWT followed by Duke. It's pretty close though.
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