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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Gordy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 25 2022 at 00:14
Originally posted by Norbert Norbert wrote:

Good the SCOTUS stood  the ground  and did not succumb to the violent, sometimes  even terroristic mob.
This decision will not effect the utterly barbaric abortion laws of New York, Illinois or California.

The countries that allow the butchering of 7 pound unborn babies always when a professional killer and a woman agrees are:

China
North Korea
Vietnam
Canada
USA

The first three countries are obvious paragons of democracy  and respecting human rights...

If Canada and USA feels well in such company...


You'll find you won't get much, if any, support around these parts for such reactionary and racist garbage.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Norbert Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 25 2022 at 03:00
I don't need any support of fans of baby butchering, many thanks.:-)

I am not a racist, and vehemently oppose any form of racism.
But these Neo-Maoists just bring up racism always when somebody dares to disagree with their views.

Garbage is not my post, but the other posts of this topic.

It is very  clear that the people of this communist cesspool are not even worth a discussion.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Archisorcerus Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 25 2022 at 03:46
Originally posted by Norbert Norbert wrote:

But these Neo-Maoists just bring up racism always when somebody dares to disagree with their views.

It is very  clear that the people of this communist cesspool are not even worth a discussion.

And the ignorant Americans and probably unconsciously Americanized ignorants like you always call who oppose them in political views communists. How typical and caricaturistic. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote JD Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 25 2022 at 06:21
Originally posted by Norbert Norbert wrote:

I don't need any support of fans of baby butchering, many thanks.:-)

I am not a racist, and vehemently oppose any form of racism.
But these Neo-Maoists just bring up racism always when somebody dares to disagree with their views.

Garbage is not my post, but the other posts of this topic.

It is very  clear that the people of this communist cesspool are not even worth a discussion.
Then maybe you should just stop talking.
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Originally posted by The Dark Elf The Dark Elf wrote:

It's worth remembering that four right wing justices were nominated by two presidents who did not win the popular vote. So there's that.
I think we've moved on from that as most Americans who vote understand the Electorial voting concept, even if they don't agree with it. It's the flaw in the machine that we have navigate every 4 years.

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Originally posted by Archisorcerus Archisorcerus wrote:

Originally posted by Norbert Norbert wrote:

But these Neo-Maoists just bring up racism always when somebody dares to disagree with their views.

It is very  clear that the people of this communist cesspool are not even worth a discussion.


And the ignorant Americans and probably unconsciously Americanized ignorants like you always call who oppose them in political views communists. How typical and caricaturistic. 
Especially when socialist ideals are the last vestige of free thought in the US.
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A politicized ruling that will be damaging for years. Saw this coming when Trump was elected in 2016. Awful.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote moshkito Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 25 2022 at 07:12
Originally posted by mathman0806 mathman0806 wrote:

A politicized ruling that will be damaging for years. Saw this coming when Trump was elected in 2016. Awful.

Hi,

In a way yes, but I think it goes further ... what the man brought to politics is that lawyers in court will win just about anything because the public has no idea what they are discussing or fighting about except a one sentence line ... this is what America's political system is all about these days ... it's all about legalese and their minions.

But the real issue is that the census appears to be another novel in literature. So many people of color, so many Latinos, so many women ... and yet ... the voting always ends up all white Anglo Saxon folks representing your country! Makes you wonder where the cheating and the lying really is!

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Anyways ....

I think that America got what it wanted ... 2 AMERICAS ... one that thinks this way and another than thinks that way!

The worst part is that both parties go both ways ... to the point of no one even really knowing or understanding what they are fighting about.

So we will have some states with and some states without ... to heck that my children will go some of those states passing laws by neo-politicians disguised as some sort of religious anything.

But maybe this was needed ... and we finally might get to see women actually vote more and create a bigger difference over all than just merely sitting by ... along with many folks enjoying their weed and ignoring the vote ... reminds me of Reagan one time ... "let them get stoned! I'll win all the elections!"

We simply don't listen to history and its lessons, and sometimes the best lesson is a step backwards in order to learn to go forward. I sincerely hope that the populace replace many of the neo-politicians that are behaving more like religious lecturers than they are like the politicians they need to be ... and specially arguing about something that is personal ... and should never be considered a matter of vote, law or court.


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Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:

Hi,

I think that America got what it wanted ... 2 AMERICAS ... one that thinks this way and another than thinks that way!

The worst part is that both parties go both ways ... to the point of no one even really knowing or understanding what they are fighting about.

So we will have some states with and some states without ... to heck that my children will go some of those states passing laws by neo-politicians disguised as some sort of religious anything.

But maybe this was needed ... and we finally might get to see women actually vote more and create a bigger difference over all than just merely sitting by ... along with many folks enjoying their weed and ignoring the vote ... reminds me of Reagan one time ... "let them get stoned! I'll win all the elections!"

We simply don't listen to history and its lessons, and sometimes the best lesson is a step backwards in order to learn to go forward. I sincerely hope that the populace replace many of the neo-politicians that are behaving more like religious lecturers than they are like the politicians they need to be ... and specially arguing about something that is personal ... and should never be considered a matter of vote, law or court.
I agree that there's two Americas, as there has always been since the end of the Civil War. This is nothing new. That it's as pronounced as it is now is new.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote moshkito Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 25 2022 at 07:23
Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

 
... I agree that there's two Americas, as there has always been since the end of the Civil War. This is nothing new. That it's as pronounced as it is now is new.

Hi,

I wonder if the media is the problem. The main difference between now and then, could easily be said to be that there was no media, thus it seems like in a war, one side lost.

But my biggest concern is that the numbers between the census and the voting populace do not match, and the results usually turn out exactly the same. Which suggests that a vast (and incredible number) of Americans are not bothering to put in the effort to make things go forward, instead of backwards! 

So, if things don't go "right" as they should or could, then we have no one to blame but ourselves. The case of the Civil War, I imagine that a media would hide the idea that it was more about land grabbing and control than anything else.


Edited by moshkito - June 25 2022 at 07:25
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Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:

Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

 
... I agree that there's two Americas, as there has always been since the end of the Civil War. This is nothing new. That it's as pronounced as it is now is new.

Hi,

I wonder if the media is the problem. The main difference between now and then, could easily be said to be that there was no media, thus it seems like in a war, one side lost.

But my biggest concern is that the numbers between the census and the voting populace do not match, and the results usually turn out exactly the same. Which suggests that a vast (and incredible number) of Americans are not bothering to put in the effort to make things go forward, instead of backwards! 

So, if things don't go "right" as they should or could, then we have no one to blame but ourselves. The case of the Civil War, I imagine that a media would hide the idea that it was more about land grabbing and control than anything else.

That's possibly true, but a lot of America’s dark politics have now risen to the surface and have become mainstream issues. We had a president who failed to denounce white supremacy on national TV. Times have changed.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Sean Trane Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 25 2022 at 08:05
Pretty sure the supreme court stepped outside its role and made an illégal decision. OuchDead

The supreme court's role is to see that the constitution and laws are observed and followed and that's about it.
It's not supposed to change (modify or suppress) laws that have been voted - especially those voted some 49 years ago.

Democracy is taking a beating in the XXIst C, and not only in Ukraine and Russia. Dead(not that those two were ever democracies anyways)
I just hope Europe's democracy (and the planet's climate) remains stable long enough until I die, because it's going to get ugly for mankind.


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Originally posted by progaardvark progaardvark wrote:

Yes, sadly, this may be the best thing to happen to Democrats going into the mid terms.  Two thirds of American's are against this ruling. And for once, the Republicans may have dropped the political ball.
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Originally posted by Norbert Norbert wrote:

I don't need any support of fans of baby butchering, many thanks.:-)

I am not a racist, and vehemently oppose any form of racism.
But these Neo-Maoists just bring up racism always when somebody dares to disagree with their views.

Garbage is not my post, but the other posts of this topic.

It is very  clear that the people of this communist cesspool are not even worth a discussion.
I must say that I feel sorry for. Your views are quite unpopular, not only here, but with the majority of those of American citizens who are outraged by this ruling, which I'm sure extends to Eastern Europe as well. I can't imagine living in that type of self imposed social isolation. Good luck to you.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote suitkees Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 25 2022 at 10:25
I don't need any support of fans of women butchering.
There's just a very recent story (with fortunately a good outcome) in Malta which shows how inhumane this kind of legislation is.


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Originally posted by suitkees suitkees wrote:

I don't need any support of fans of women butchering.
There's just a very recent story (with fortunately a good outcome) in Malta which shows how inhumane this kind of legislation is.
I'm curious. Do you realize that none of these women were forced at gunpoint to have an abortion, but that it was their choice?
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^ Steve, I was paraphrasing Norbert's inanity, but maybe you read the opposite in what I'm trying to say?

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Originally posted by suitkees suitkees wrote:

^ Steve, I was paraphrasing Norbert's inanity, but maybe you read the opposite in what I'm trying to say?
I most certainly did. I'm legally blind, so occasionally I misread things. My apologies.  Just cross out suitkees and insert Norbert.  LOL
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