What’s the meaning of prog |
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David_D
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And what's the conclusion regarding the topic?
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quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond
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Psychedelic Paul
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Simply that I can't imagine a life without Progressive Rock, even though I've been far removed from prog for the last few days, listening to the funky soul of George Clinton (Dr. Funkenstein), as well as listening to Demis Roussos warbling his way through over twenty albums, where the only thing progressive about Demis Roussos is his albums get progressively worse.
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amarthu
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Personally, I’ve had a conclusion thanks to moshkito’s remarks. This topic may well not matter. I reckon it may be a better idea to listen to whatever music according to your own feelings instead of trying hard to find a meaning or definition unless you’re a music reviewer or philosopher.
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TheGazzardian
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I think 'progressive rock' as a term has mostly lost its meaning. You are telling me that Sigur Ros, King Gizzard and the Lizard Wizard, Magma, Devin Townsend, and Mahavishnu Orchestra are all from the same genre of music?
In the early days, I think there were some distinctly 'proggy' sounds - Canterbury, Symphonic, JR/F, Zeuhl, etc., that were actually distinct types of music themselves. But they had some common elements that at the time were new to rock music, like: Long compositions, Time Signature Changes, use of non-standard instruments, integration with other genres. And the name 'progressive' implied anything that pushed the boundaries of rock could be considered part of this genre. As well, there was a 'movement' aspect to it, but that movement, as much as it exists now, is a reaction to the past and the output of it, maybe even more so a reaction to what is popular on the radio, which it arguably was a reaction to in the early days of the genre. So all these things that tied it into one genre that were never really very clear or exclusively owned by prog, exist all over the place. Sigur Ros is of course prog because they use non-rock instruments. Dream Theatre is of course prog because they have long compositions. King Gizzard + the Lizard Wizard are of course prog because they sound like the psych bands of old and change their approach all the time, . And so on. But the meaning of the genre, due to its inherent fuzziness, has just grown and grown, to the point that things that may have been spiritual cousins of prog are now considered part of the genre, and then thing that sound like them are also invited into the genre. So it means many disparate things, and in some ways, it means nothing, and ... well, I still discovered tons of good music by following the path of "What do people who like this music like me?" discover. But I can never say that when I started looking for more music like Yes, that I would have considered Bjork to be an appropriate recommendation. Took me years to get to the point where I had broadened my appreciation of music far beyond what I was originally looking for that I could be open to such a comparison. In the process, though, I became a little jaded about the value of the term 'prog'.
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Catcher10
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Silly wabbit, your confusing it with acne on the scrotum.....Google it!
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David_D
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Well, reflecting about Prog and better understanding of it doesn't make me appreciate the music less, on the contrary. - But that's again a matter of preferences.
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David_D
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Which means, Progressive Rock is very meaningful for at least some people. |
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Progishness
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The meaning of prog is close to the edge.
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Hi, I was thinking close to the gutter!
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Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told!
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Catcher10
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What's the meaning of porg?
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Logan
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There is a fifth prog meaning beyond that which is known to man. It is a train of thought as vast as space and as timeless as falling into infinity. It is the middle ground between light and shadow, between images and words, between science and superstition. It comes from a place where dream and day unite, from scenes of a memory. It is a place of systematic chaos, and it lies between the pit of man’s fears, and the summit, which is a view from the top of the world, of his knowledge. This is the astonishing dimension of imagination. It is a prog interpretation which we call, "The Dream Theater".
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Just a fanboy passin' through.
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Catcher10
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Psychedelic Paul must have hacked your login......Or assumed control of your mind.....
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David_D
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I don't know quite what to think about it myself, but it sounds impressing and inspiring.
Edited by David_D - January 24 2023 at 15:06 |
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Psychedelic Paul
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^ The Astonishing thing about Dream Theater is I never even knew I liked Progressive Metal until I heard their second album for the first time. Images and Words cannot express how much I love that album, which was destined to Pull Me Under their spell. I've been Surrounded with the music of Dream Theater ever since. They were the band who Awakened my latent desire for Progressive Metal (before I even knew such a genre as Progressive Metal existed) and altered my Train of Thought about Metal generally. This New York band have really stood the Distance Over Time too, despite losing their long-time drummer Mike Portnoy. In A Dramatic Turn of Events back in 2010, Portnoy announced he was leaving the band, temporarily throwing Dream Theater into Systematic Chaos, but Black Clouds and Silver Linings as they say, and The Spirit Carries On with their new drummer Mike Mangini.
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That's great, while this kind of Dream has never got into me, even I've tried hardly several times - too much Neo-Prog over it.
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Logan
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"There is nothing wrong with your television set. Do not attempt to adjust the picture. We are controlling transmission ... You are about to experience the awe and mystery which reaches from the inner mind to the outer limits (the classic Outer Limits opening). I just felt this topic was getting to feel like it was entering the Twilight Zone (these kinds of topics always do to me every time they come up) and was feeling like it had entered something of a strange dream theater. I'm lazy, adding in a few Dream Theater album references while slightly adapting a classic The Twilight Zone opening doesn't compare to the effort Paul puts into those things. |
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Just a fanboy passin' through.
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Grumpyprogfan
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Did someone mention the Twilight Zone?
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David_D
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Prog wouldn't exist without reflecting about it, and reflection is the very core of the human nature.
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David_D
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I'm surely not the only one inspired by Paul.
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AFlowerKingCrimson
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According to some people it's a city in the Czech Republic. I remember I was at a show for a Genesis tribute band and asked a guy I was talking to there if he was a prog fan (or maybe I just mentioned the term prog - this was a long time ago and so I don't really remember for sure). Anyway, his response (and I swear I'm not joking about this) was something like "you mean the capital of Czech Republic?" It confounded me mainly because this was supposedly a fan of early Genesis (this was for the lamb show by the Musical Box).
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