The Wall: Then and Now |
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Manuel
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I still like it a lot, even though is not as good as Wish You Were Here, or Animals, but a good album that I spin here and there, and always gives me some good listening pleasure.
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Atavachron
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Seeing the film in one's teens was a rite of passage in the early '80s. It was a depraved, depressing spectacle but somehow fit that high-strung & uneasy decade. |
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David_D
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Liked it then, still like it now
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quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond
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mathman0806
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Liked it then and like it now. Just not an album that I listen to in its entirety anymore.
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wiz_d_kidd
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I really liked it then, and I like it much less now. My interest has decreased in recent years because much of it reminds me of the direction in which Roger Waters was moving the sound (and message) of the band. At the time it came out, I accepted it as a brief and hopefully temporary aberration to the PF sound that I loved, but upon hearing what RW has done (and said) in the years that followed, I now dislike it more and more. Now, when some of the Waters-dominant pieces play, I think to myself... "Oh, shut the F*** up, Roger" and hit the skip track button.
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lazland
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It was a lodestone for me over many years. I was 15 when it was released, and this and Animals defined my politics for many years.
Musically, it remains very powerful, but I recall Gilmour stating in an interview a few years back that he supported it fully at the time (he had no choice, because financially the band were at risk of liquidation), but, on reflection in later years, he felt it was "a bit of a whinge". I agree, although I would point out it didn't stop him or the others playing tracks from it live. My issue with Waters is his rants over Israel in particular. I used to hear it every single bloody year attending civil service trade union annual conference. Waters says absolutely nothing new whatsoever, basically rehashing tropes the left in the UK have been saying for years without any understanding of the complexities, history, and nuances which exist in the Middle East, and Palestine in particular. The idea that "Israel bad, Palestine good", or, indeed, vice versa, is for immature minds. The other issue I have is the rank hypocrisy he demonstrates in performing this piece in massive stadia, given that the whole concept was born from his opinion that such arenas separated band from music fans. In short, I find him tiresome these days. I am not the same person as I was, because as people age and mature, they develop their opinions to fit the facts. Waters is, by contrast, regressing. Laz rant over.
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progaardvark
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I liked it a little back then. Today I'm ambivalent.
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Easy Money
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I much prefer the earlier versions of Pink Floyd, the magic and experimentation went out when Roger imposed more of himself on the band.
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Nogbad_The_Bad
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I thought it was a weak Floyd album back then, I like it even less these days. Waters gets more and more tiresome.
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Ian
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AFlowerKingCrimson
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I ultimately voted "liked it then and like it now."
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suitkees
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Thank you all for the comments (so far). It's interesting to read each and everyone's take on this.
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Stressed Cheese
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"Then" in my case is about 12 years ago when I first heard the album. I couldn't really get into it, even after repeated listens, so at some point I just had to admit to myself that I didn't like it that much. A lot of filler on this one, and Waters' whiny vocals are hard to tolerate for an entire double album. He clearly had enough story material for a double album, but not enough music, so whether or not he had a compelling story to tell is moot. Too bad the other members weren't there to mitigate that problem. Btw, you can probably tell how I feel about The Final Cut, then.
That said, it's been years since I've heard it in full, and I've been going through Pink Floyd chronologically, because there's been a couple albums that I never really played much. So I've been reappraising Saucerful and More lately, even the studio disc of Ummagumma (the live disc I've always found brilliant), and the same could happen to The Wall I suppose, whenever I get there. But I'm not getting my hopes up.
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dr wu23
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Voted other.....I liked about half of it then and still do.
Probably would have been a far better single lp with proper song editing and selection.
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VianaProghead
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Liked it then, still like it now.
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richardh
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Its basically 'Prog Opera'. Massively overblown but so many inspired moments. Very different to the consistency of Wish You Were Here or DSOTM but then it was similar to when The Who put out Quadrophenia. Anyone like that over Who's Next?! Apples and Oranges.
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Atavachron
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^ Yessir, very musical theater, I also hear an early Genesis influence in the record. |
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Mellotron Storm
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Did you get the revamped "Animals" cd? I need to replace mine and noticed the cool updated cover art. |
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Mellotron Storm
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For me the sweet spot is Saucerful Of Secrets, Meddle and Dark Side Of The Moon but I also need Animals not Wish You Were Here to be content with my favourite FLOYD.
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"The wind is slowly tearing her apart"
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Hercules
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I bought it without listening to it when it came out, played it twice and wondered how a band could fall so far between albums, because Animals was great. I didn't play it again for about 10 years, decided that I still didn't like it and sold it.
I did take the precaution of listening to the next album before I committed to buying it and decided not to, because that was pretty awful as well..
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Saperlipopette!
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Loved it like virtually no other music I had ever heard when I first discovered it in my parents record collection. Still like it - or rather I still love it, really. I can never stop loving it, and there's a lot of great songs on it that will never grow old. But I havent listened to the album in full once in the 2000's.
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