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    Posted: August 15 2023 at 02:50
Great Gatefold sleeves was one of the highpoint of prog, but in some cases, the intended artwork got botched ever so ruthlessly and folded over the back.



Perusing the Saga 7x7 thread, I was looking over the band's discography in Discogs and was reminded how sad that the band's second Images At Twilight album sleeve had not been released as a gatefoldAngry, given that the back of the single sleeve had the same artwork continuing over the other sideAngry
In some ways, I think it was too bad that Tony Roberts (the illustrator of IaT) did not provide the full Silent Knight artwork (if there was ever one) to see it massacred the same way.

So, I'm looking for similar sleeves artworks that were unceremonously and irrespectfully folded over on the back of the sleeve (for financial reasons, most likely)... Any others?

I can think of Marillion's Script, Fugazi & Childhood that had only received single-slleves issues in North Am, but received Gatefold n Europe, so that doesn't count.

Also albums like Crime of The Century shouldn't count, because the back sleeve could appear as the front sleeves' continuity, but it isn't the case.

Over to you... Wink


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote Cristi Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 15 2023 at 02:54
Can you edit the thread title, it's unintentionally funny and silly. 
Maybe "Albums that deserved a gatefold sleeve" fits in there. ConfusedSmile


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote JD Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 15 2023 at 04:55
I missed the original title, what was it?

ELP's first album had the art work folded back. Definitely deserving a gatefold.
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In an ideal world, every album should have a gatefold sleeve with poly lined inner sleeves and lyric sheets. Wink
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote Sean Trane Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 15 2023 at 06:12
Originally posted by JD JD wrote:

ELP's first album had the art work folded back. Definitely deserving a gatefold.


Good call. Clap
Discogs says Island Records released it as a gatefold in Germany, but nowhere else

Originally posted by Octopus II Octopus II wrote:

In an ideal world, every album should have a gatefold sleeve with poly lined inner sleeves and lyric sheets. Wink


AbsoFriggingLetelyClap


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Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

Originally posted by JD JD wrote:

ELP's first album had the art work folded back. Definitely deserving a gatefold.


Good call. Clap
Discogs says Island Records released it as a gatefold in Germany, but nowhere else
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I'd love to know what was on the inside spread.

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And here is my answer...God, Greg and Carl look totally bored.




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Ok here me out... Tormato or 90125
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Even though Nursery Crime had a gatefold cover in Europe, the USA edition did not, oddly enough, and that was the first copy I got. Later on, I got a european copy, which made more sense to me.
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Originally posted by Frets N Worries Frets N Worries wrote:

Ok here me out... Tormato or 90125


How do you figure?Confused

If you unfold the respective single sleeve, the two halves don't click in (well in a way they do, but there is something fishy. The Tor rock formation behind the humans is the same, but reversed.


Originally posted by Manuel Manuel wrote:

Even though Nursery Crime had a gatefold cover in Europe, the USA edition did not, oddly enough, and that was the first copy I got. Later on, I got a european copy, which made more sense to me.


I guess your copy was a Buddha record issue

My Canadian Genesis albums were all gatefolds and issued by Charisma.
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Early Charisma label UK records ( VDGG, Genesis, The Nice, Audience, Bo Hansson...) were/are gatefolded ( but not all of them like The first Capability Brown , first Lindisfare, first Rarebird, Birth Control)
Nursery Cryime issued by the Dutch Philipps in Europe is a gatefold also.
All equivalent US Buddah releases have a cheap folded back (to my limited knowledge)


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Not prog per se (at all), but a few of Nazareth's spectacular fantasy album sleeves never received a gatefold sleeve (to my knowleqdge).

Hair Of The Dog, 
Loud & Proud, 
No Mean City (though I'm not certain the back & front "collate" perfectly for that one)


Actually, when they did go "Gatefold", it was for their weakest artworks (Raza excepted).
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^ Loud & Proud did have a gatefold sleeve.

I bought a reissue of No Mean City a couple of years ago on coloured vinyl which had a gatefold sleeve. (the original issue in 1979 did not). Smile
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Originally posted by Octopus II Octopus II wrote:

^ Loud & Proud did have a gatefold sleeve.

I bought a reissue of No Mean City a couple of years ago on coloured vinyl which had a gatefold sleeve. (the original issue in 1979 did not). Smile


My bad for L&P... North America didn't receive a gatefold, but according to Discogs, Europe did.

Do the two halves of the NMC collate well on the spine of the gatefold?


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^ This is identical to the copy I bought from Amazon UK a couple of years ago. Smile

Nazareth No Mean City Limited Edition Coloured Gatefold Vinyl | eBay
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That's the inner gatefold... 
What about the outer gtefold, though?
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^ Inside left half of the cover is replicated on the outer cover. (I have just checked my copy).

I have also seen this album on green vinyl, but don't know if it has a gatefold sleeve. Smile
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Hi,

The American version of Amon Duul 2's "Made in Germany" threw away the original gatefold, with a cover that really was not exactly representative of AD2's music. While I love hearing Renate, I thought the cover was rather distasteful, and it likely hurt the band's efforts in America.

Egberto Gismonti's "No Caipira" should have had a gatefold, to help folks understand the incredible mixes in that album of Brazilian music, jazz and classical music to create a tapestry that was phenomenal, but was likely way too "classical" for most of our ears, even ECM's whose material at the time (1972) still had a lot of material that was very "traditional" in its style, though very free and improvised.


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