Steven Wilson - Economies of Scale - Progressive Rock Music Forum

omphaloskepsis wrote:

edefakiel wrote:

I used to be a Steven Wilson fanboy, but I don't think that, beyond the remixes and some parts of Closure/Continuation, anything that he has done after The Raven that Refused to Sing is for me.

He can do whatever he wants, I just don't dig this music he is making.

edefakiel's opinion mirrors my feelings...exactly. Wink

This. Loved his PT stuff. Loved his first 4 or so albums. Thought It Bites was a giant pile of pop horse sh*t. Have listened to it maybe 2 times and that was enough.

Not sure why some artists feel the need to completely abandon the fans that put them where they are. Without those early fans of PT and his earlier solo stuff, he would not be where he is. Instead of sticking with what we all (or many of us) think works, he goes pop.

Have only listed to the one song. Maybe the rest is better - waiting to see. If it is more of the same, I am likely done with the guy and his music. Better if he just sticks with remixing 5.1 albums of the past instead of spewing out more It Bites stuff.

^ My strategy as well. Listening to everything on Spotify/Bandcamp and at the end of the year I’ll buy my favorite ten releases of the year. Using AwesomeProg.com to keep track of the list …

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moshkito wrote:

Hi,

... it's very NY stylized in modern dance ... a lot of which is very empty and soul'ess. Interesting, and not bad, mind you, but in the end, you won't remember a lot of it later ... it's not like Misha or Rudy, that you remembered those flights through the air for years in your mind and wonder how they did that!

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Hi,

That's NOT to say that it is wrong, or bad ... that is to say that the dancing itself is not aligned with the music, very well, and most dance, other than ballet tends to align itself as well or better than possible, to ensure that folks "get it" and then can appreciate the art form.

Experimental theater, and dance, is often a serious issue and you can only see them in the big 5 (LA, NY, London, Tokyo and Paris) and no one else will ever see them or even check out a filmed portion of it, and as such a lot of the development of the dance stuff is left behind, but in the end, I wonder how much is really good enough for your eyes and mine.

You know what this video needed? BOB FOSSE ... and tell SW to shut up in the design of the dancing!, and the supposed "meaning" ... which is not clear at all!

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Wilson is promising that more or less each of the cuts on The Harmony Codex will take different musical approaches, so perhaps some of his more conventional prog inclinations will come back out. In any case "Economies of Scale" is a nice tune and I'm down for The Future Bites II: The Squeakquel if it does end up like that.

Not bad per say, but certainly not my cup of tea. I hope the rest of the album is different (I doubt) and indeed better.

I'm still thinking about that object made out of Lego bricks. Is Steven going to use Legos to get me to buy his album? Confused

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^ Will listen to it on Spotify. I’ll assist SW in his fight against evil consumerism and not spend any money on the release, unless I end up REALLY liking it after several listens.

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A description off Burning Shed website........Pre-order was released last night. I ordered the vinyl version of course.

The Harmony Codex - the seventh album by Steven Wilson - is a genre-spanning collection that represents the apotheosis of a life spent fully absorbed in music.

While The Harmony Codex nods to records from Steven Wilson’s recent past, at times echoing the paranoid rumble of 2008’s Insurgentes, the crystalline electronics of 2021’s The Future Bites and the expansive storytelling of 2013’s The Raven That Refused To Sing (and Other Stories), here he has managed to create something entirely unique, a record that exists outside of the notion of genre. And although The Harmony Codex is a record made with spatial audio in mind, it’s not one that needs an elaborate sound system to lift you out of body - two speakers and an open mind will do just fine.

I think this is fine. Not outstanding but fine. I like it more than anything I've heard from Future Bites. (I wasn't that keen on the Raven either to be honest.)

Bloody awful! And the mix, which Steven is known for, is bad. Main vocal is way too loud, and the drum machine/programming (trap beats) is yuck. Is the whole album going to be trap beats?