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    Posted: September 18 2023 at 13:46
Is there an update to when Camel - AIR BORN: THE MCA & DECCA YEARS 1973-1984 Box Set is going to be released??

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JPC lists the release date of this box set as 27.10.2023
imusic.dk states: Expected to be ready for shipping Nov 13, 2023
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Originally posted by zeb1981 zeb1981 wrote:

JPC lists the release date of this box set as 27.10.2023
imusic.dk states: Expected to be ready for shipping Nov 13, 2023


I don't find it when I search the JPC website. Can you post a link?
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was this the box set they were going to release about 12 months ago, but pulled a month or so, before the release date?
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Originally posted by Jared Jared wrote:

was this the box set they were going to release about 12 months ago, but pulled a month or so, before the release date?


Yes, I think so. It might never see the light of day.
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I'd imagine that pricing is a problem when you have 32 discs and 5 are Blue Rays (or something like that when I looked it up yesterday) . Couldn't see a price anywhere. Its about 8 times as big as the deluxe release of Marillion's Script For A Jester's Tear which has 4 discs and 1 Blue Ray and that's currently on Amazon for just under 30.  Multiply up and that gets to about 200 at least which seems about right. Who is going to shell out for this in a cost of living crisis?!
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Yeah, it's going to be pricy (if it ever gets released at all), and most fans already have most of this stuff anyway.



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^^ that's exactly the problem... kinds of bring to mind this:



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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Pekka Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 22 2023 at 13:11
Originally posted by SouthSideoftheSky SouthSideoftheSky wrote:

Originally posted by Jared Jared wrote:

was this the box set they were going to release about 12 months ago, but pulled a month or so, before the release date?


Yes, I think so. It might never see the light of day.

It was, the original release date was in May and most of the shops that listed it just quietly pulled it from their selection. No record company has ever said anything about this release in public, it was all just listings from different webshops.

As for the price, it was listed around 165 dollars / 140 euros which is not a lot per disc.

And about what's new or rare, I did my best to figure it out in this post: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=130802&PID=6075038#6075038
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Pekka Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 22 2023 at 13:17
Regarding the price of the box, I wrote this somewhere else but it bears repeating here too: 

I would love it if the box only had the unreleased and rare stuff, or that every major unreleased element was released on its own as a separate release, but let's take a look at what it would probably cost. Keeping in mind that the price for this box is most likely about 120-140 euros and nowadays CD releases are often in let's say 18-23 euros range and if there's a Blu-ray disc too it might be as high as 30.

Camel remixed (cd+bd)
Mirage remixed (cd+bd)
The Snow Goose remixed (cd+bd)
Moonmadness remixed (cd+bd)
Nude remixed (cd+bd)
Marquee 1974 (2cd)
Hammersmith 1977 (2cd)
Unreleased songs and demos compilation (1 or 2 cd)

If each of these cost only 18 euros which is the least it could probably be, it would add up as 144 euros which is already more expensive than the box. Probably it would cost a lot more with the Blu-rays and double albums. So if you're a hard core fan that wants everything, the box is actually a cheap solution even if it has way too much stuff in it.

One thing I'm hoping for is that Universal will finally put all of this stuff on streaming platforms. There's only a couple of albums on them nowadays and the rest I carry around as mp3's.
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I still have Camel boxset ordered at JPC Musik since April 2023. They emailed me back saying the boxset will come out sometime in 2024. They told me my order stands and no change in price to me.
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Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

I'd imagine that pricing is a problem when you have 32 discs and 5 are Blue Rays (or something like that when I looked it up yesterday) . Couldn't see a price anywhere. Its about 8 times as big as the deluxe release of Marillion's Script For A Jester's Tear which has 4 discs and 1 Blue Ray and that's currently on Amazon for just under 30. Multiply up and that gets to about 200 at least which seems about right. Who is going to shell out for this in a cost of living crisis?!


About the same number of CD/DVD as the King Crimson,, Steve Hillage and Tangerine dream boxes and therefore comparable prices (200/250 euros)

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Nice item, but out of my price range. Unhappy


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Available for 159.99 on Burning Shed.

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Originally posted by Octopus II Octopus II wrote:

Available for 159.99 on Burning Shed.


That's honestly a good price for what you get and better than I expected. Bearing in mind there is a Keith Emerson box set just released and similarly priced of his solo music (150 for 20 CD's) then I know which one I would go for (and I'm a massive ELP fan!)


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Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Originally posted by Octopus II Octopus II wrote:

Available for 159.99 on Burning Shed.


That's honestly a good price for what you get and better than I expected. Bearing in mind there is a Keith Emerson box set just released and similarly priced of his solo music then I know which one I would go for (and I'm a massive ELP fan!)

It is a good price, I have all the Camel studio albums and the official live albums so I don't need this.

I love ELP as well and would like the Keith Emerson box set but its outside of my budget. Smile
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Originally posted by Octopus II Octopus II wrote:

Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Originally posted by Octopus II Octopus II wrote:

Available for 159.99 on Burning Shed.


That's honestly a good price for what you get and better than I expected. Bearing in mind there is a Keith Emerson box set just released and similarly priced of his solo music then I know which one I would go for (and I'm a massive ELP fan!)

It is a good price, I have all the Camel studio albums and the official live albums so I don't need this.

I love ELP as well and would like the Keith Emerson box set but its outside of my budget. Smile

I don't need anything like this either but 'want' is a whole different thing! The family will club together for a decent Xmas present so this might be it!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote dauinghorn Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 11 2023 at 01:38
I was very keen on this, but the design really turned me off. Looks very generic and uninteresting. I'll rather listen to my original Japanese pressings, complete with inserts and obi strip and look at the beautiful original artwork while having a nice cup of tea.
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