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    Posted: March 14 2024 at 07:48
I would suggest pairingTouch's  'Alesha & Others' which leads into '75' as a so-called epic. Recorded 1968 and released 1969. 

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Clouds "Sing, Sing, Sing" (1969)


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote duchamp Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 26 2023 at 08:07
it all depends on what you'd define as an epic. personally i'd label lumpy gravy by frank (formerly known as francis because thats what he believed his first name was) zappa was one of the first AVANT-prog epics
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One "Run, Shaker Life" (1969)


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THE WEB is best known for the third album "I Spider" but they had some great prog moments as far back as the debut release in 1968.







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The Who "A Quick One, While He's Away" (studio version, 1966)









The Who "A Quick One, While He's Away" (live version, 1968)










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Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Svetty?

LOL
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Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

^ It’s short for Svetonio, a member who has been suspended many times for different accounts and keeps coming back.

I believe he (?) still posts on the Hoffman forums though. He has been banned from PE also.
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^ It’s short for Svetonio, a member who has been suspended many times for different accounts and keeps coming back.
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Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Svetty?


Uhh, what? I'm asking cuz I've heard this term on Progressiveears as well and I have no clue what it means.
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Svetty?
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Le Stelle di Mario Schifano "Le Ultime Parole di Brandimante, dall'Orlando Furioso, Ospite Peter Hatman e Fine (da Ascoltarsi con TV accesa, Senza Volume) (1967)


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Arzachel "Metempsychosis" (1969)


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Originally posted by BrufordFreak BrufordFreak wrote:

Back to the OP:

Also: Are those 1967 Roy Harper "epics", ("Circle" and "Come Out Fighting Ghengis Smith"---10 and 9 minutes long, respectively) really "prog" epics? Or "epics" at all! (Back to the nebulous definition of whatever it is that constitutes an "epic").

I like the suggestion of the Incredible String Band's "A Very Cellular Song" very much.


  

I appreciate what you're saying about Harper's early material and the 'nebulous' definition of what constitutes an epic and yes, absolutely, probably not 'Prog' by the generally accepted 'ideas' of what that may constitute it on this site, but in 1967 the idea of extending the length and breadth of a 'popular' music (in its most generalist term of the time) song in those days came from many differing quarters- Folk, Jazz, Psych, stoner-blues-rock (whatever the heck you want to call it) and within the next couple of years they would collide and cross pollinate to create what would become 'progressive rock'. Harper was doing something very different (certainly in the UK) and although i probably should have expanded my reasoning, i feel that the whole of the second side of the 'come out fighting genghis smith' lp is really one piece in the way it was conceived and the way the ideas flow. But that is just my own personal view.

Glad you like the idea of 'A very cellular song', it really was something very unique at the timeSmile

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Renaissance "Kings and Queens" (1969)


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Deep Purple "April" (1969)


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Touch "Seventy Five" (1969)


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote BrufordFreak Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 28 2023 at 08:03
Back to the OP:

Originally posted by Grumpyprogfan Grumpyprogfan wrote:

We've been down this topic before.

Zappa - Lumpy Gravy ([first released on August 7,] 1967) was one.

Also: Are those 1967 Roy Harper "epics", ("Circle" and "Come Out Fighting Ghengis Smith"---10 and 9 minutes long, respectively) really "prog" epics? Or "epics" at all! (Back to the nebulous definition of whatever it is that constitutes an "epic").

I like the suggestion of the Incredible String Band's "A Very Cellular Song" very much.


  


Edited by BrufordFreak - November 28 2023 at 08:18
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Korni Grupa "Prvo svetlo u kući br 4" (studio version, 1969)








Korni Grupa "Prvo svetlo u kući br 4" (live version, 1969)






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^ Here's an idea: pick a song and then STFU. People will appreciate you so much more when you don't type your asinine sermons.
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