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Derek50 
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 Topic: Stargazer vs Achilles Last StandPosted: July 01 2025 at 03:42 |
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Friends, I suggest comparing these two songs. Tell me, which one do you personally like more?
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Derek50
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Posted: July 01 2025 at 03:45 |
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For me personally, this is definitely Achilles. This is LZ's best work. Page's guitar parts are just insane and Bonzo plays like a god. Considering the conditions in which the album was recorded, the guys simply created a masterpiece. And yes, in this particular case, Page's solo surpasses Blackmore's solo in Stargazer
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Posted: July 01 2025 at 03:46 |
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Posted: July 01 2025 at 04:07 |
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Of course they are both masterworks. Achilles drives and Stargazer grooves. I love a good groove, and the latter one is both catchier and more addictive to me. Without taking anything into consideration, and not putting two amazing guitar solos up against each other, like it was some sort of competition: Stargazer for me.
All that said, I got quite a few Led Zeppelin songs I love more - No Quarter, for instance. While Stargazer is by far my favorite Rainbow track. |
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Posted: July 01 2025 at 04:23 |
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Friends, is there a way to attach a vote to a topic? If so, tell me how?
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Posted: July 01 2025 at 05:09 |
Press: New Poll, write: "Stargazer vs Achilles Last Stand" in Subject, write: "which one do you personally like more?" as Poll Question - and write the two songs in question as Poll-choice 1 & 2. -and maybe "For me personally, this is definitely Achilles etc... in "message" - and finaly, press: Post New Topic:) |
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Derek50
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Posted: July 01 2025 at 05:53 |
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Unfortunately, I don't have the rights to create polls at this stage(((
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Posted: July 01 2025 at 06:31 |
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^Right. I don't mind creating it for you - if you'd like?
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Posted: July 01 2025 at 06:59 |
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Achilles here. Presence is my fave Zep album these days. In some ways, their most cohesive and unified sounding. An album that seemed to be missed by a lot of people, even Zep fans. I've always been curious why that is. The time of release, the fact it didn't contain songs that became big on radio? I don't know. But when you listen to stuff like Achilles and Tea for One with great attention, they are remarkably well constructed and filled with passionate playing. It was a truly perfect "swan song" if you will, for me. I've disowned their next album from their canon. Just not up to par with the rest imo.
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Posted: July 01 2025 at 09:04 |
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Achilles Last Stand
One of my favorite songs. |
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https://www.scribd.com/document/382737647/MortSahlFan-Song-List |
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Posted: July 01 2025 at 10:04 |
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Stargazer for sure.
I like Achilles' but it's way tooooo repetititititive. Zep is not good in minimalism (Carouselambra is another good example)
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prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
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Posted: July 01 2025 at 11:59 |
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"Stargazer," by far! Rising is one of the best rock albums of the Seventies.
Dio > Plant Blackmore > Page Powell > Bonham (yes, I went there) That particular Rainbow line-up's secret weapon was keyboardist Tony Carey, who Blackmore stupidly pissed off. Let's not forget the late Jimmy Bain, a rock-solid groover and rather underrated bassist in my book. |
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Posted: July 01 2025 at 12:58 |
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Achilles Last Stand!
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Posted: July 01 2025 at 15:11 |
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Stargazer is good but kinda high school. Achilles' on the other hand is one of the finest examples of progressive hard rock on record. Complex, sophisticated, with great arranging and thoughtful lyrics. It was Page's "guitar army" come to life.
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Posted: July 01 2025 at 15:37 |
I agree with this post! However, both are amazing songs! Daily Doug's analysis of Stargazer is well worth watching! Daily Doug - Stargazer |
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Posted: July 01 2025 at 19:00 |
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Achilles Last Stand. It's the drums. Now, if we were talking about "A Light in the Black", I may vote differently, as I consider that the best song on Rainbow Rising.
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Posted: July 01 2025 at 19:35 |
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Why not make it a poll?
I prefer Achilles. Stargazer is a bit overrated. |
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Saperlipopette!
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Posted: July 01 2025 at 20:27 |
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Posted: July 01 2025 at 20:28 |
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Stargazer still makes the hairs on my arms stand up 40 odd years later, Achilles is great but Stargazer is still a monster for me personally.
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Posted: July 01 2025 at 22:13 |
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It seems that both Paige and Blackmore were exploring that middle eastern flavour in their guitar playing. Both are my favourite tracks by those respective bands so hard to pick. There is also that awesome Knebworth version by LZ when festivals were interesting and not invaded by attention seeking rap artists
 I'd cop out with both equally. |
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