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Poll Question: Who is F1’s best driver ever
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    Posted: November 20 2005 at 13:36

Sports polls seem to be popular at the moment so im giving motorsport one last bash on this site, so who do you think is the greatest of all time?

My vote goes to Villeneuve, amazing driver. 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 20 2005 at 14:02
Although I just confessed to knowing nothing about cars, I did follow the Grand Prix curcuit on and off from 1984 to around 2002 (Schuey fatigue!)

I thought Ayrton Senna was the best over that period ... very narrowly over Prost

Nelson Piquet was my favourite but the last couple of years he did look past it ...


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 20 2005 at 14:21

How can it possibly be anyone other than Michael Schumacher?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 20 2005 at 14:27

Originally posted by ColonelClaypool ColonelClaypool wrote:


How can it possibly be anyone other than Michael Schumacher?

Simple, Michael has for his entire carrier followd sennas rule of "if your faster than me im going to push you of the track at 200mph" and they both have tried it!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 20 2005 at 14:29

I started to see F1 racings since 1972 and give up on May 1st, 1994, the very day Senna died. Unfortunately I did not follow Schummy career but he is great indeed!

My vote is for Senna followed by Villeneuve (father) and Prost.

Many British here shall be surprised but I supported Mansell instead of Piquet. I think both were good drivers but Piquet is a person difficult to swallow. I swear that we Brazilians are not that kind of people.

The problems between Mansell and Senna were all restricted to the races nothing personal. It's part of the circus. With Piquet the matter escaped the speedway lines and entered the personal lives of his rivals. It's not part of the circus!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 20 2005 at 16:38

Nikki Lauda, cold as an ice and had the courage to come back after that terrible accident.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 20 2005 at 16:58

Ivan...Nikki Who?

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 20 2005 at 17:01
Originally posted by Tony R Tony R wrote:

Ivan...Nikki Who?

 

Ouch, I hope that was a joke Nikki Lauda was 74 and 76 world champ and would have beaten James Hunt in 75 but crashed in Germany and almost burnt to death, he was even given the last rightes in hospital but was racing 6 weeks later.

I chose Villeneuve for one reason Dijon 79, anyone who has seen the video will know what I mean.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 20 2005 at 17:05
Originally posted by sleeper sleeper wrote:

Originally posted by Tony R Tony R wrote:

Ivan...Nikki Who?

 

Ouch, I hope that was a joke Nikki Lauda was 74 and 76 world champ and would have beaten James Hunt in 75 but crashed in Germany and almost burnt to death, he was even given the last rightes in hospital but was racing 6 weeks later.

I chose Villeneuve for one reason Dijon 79, anyone who has seen the video will know what I mean.

Little adjustment...

Lauda was champion in 75 and 77 (and also in 84). He lost to Hunt in 1976.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 20 2005 at 17:43
Originally posted by Atkingani Atkingani wrote:

Originally posted by sleeper sleeper wrote:

Originally posted by Tony R Tony R wrote:

Ivan...Nikki Who?

 

Ouch, I hope that was a joke Nikki Lauda was 74 and 76 world champ and would have beaten James Hunt in 75 but crashed in Germany and almost burnt to death, he was even given the last rightes in hospital but was racing 6 weeks later.

I chose Villeneuve for one reason Dijon 79, anyone who has seen the video will know what I mean.

Little adjustment...

Lauda was champion in 75 and 77 (and also in 84). He lost to Hunt in 1976.

Sorry your right, Emerson Fittipaldi was champion in 74, i cant believe I did that

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 20 2005 at 18:53
Just check the numbers of championships won. There is a pilot who makes the difference here.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 20 2005 at 20:57
Originally posted by Atkingani Atkingani wrote:

Originally posted by sleeper sleeper wrote:

Originally posted by Tony R Tony R wrote:

Ivan...Nikki Who?

 

Ouch, I hope that was a joke Nikki Lauda was 74 and 76 world champ and would have beaten James Hunt in 75 but crashed in Germany and almost burnt to death, he was even given the last rightes in hospital but was racing 6 weeks later.

I chose Villeneuve for one reason Dijon 79, anyone who has seen the video will know what I mean.

Little adjustment...

Lauda was champion in 75 and 77 (and also in 84). He lost to Hunt in 1976.

I only saw him in 1984 (Lauda was already a living legend with his half burned face), when he won the title by 1/2 point before Alain Prost without having any pole position!!!!

This describes Nikki, he only was fast on the race, what a dramatic season Prost won in the last race (Portugal) and Lauda reached second without trying to pass him at any moment, pure tactic, I was happy because Keke Rosberg was left far behind, that guy was a lunatic.

That season was the first of Ayrton Senna also.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 20 2005 at 23:58
I vote would go either to Senna or Schumacher
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 21 2005 at 03:53

Although not the fastest driver around, Prost was the smartest (but also the whienest around the last two years)

As being an excellent driver is not being about the fastest , but also the way you set up your car and avoid crashing it or abusing it (causing breakdown) he was clearly the best one around!!

Senna only became excellent after Prost showed him how to tune a car once they became teammates> then he became the better driver and thrived on his "hate "of Prost to beat him. He quickly became aimless once Prost retired.

However Prost did not manage to turn around Ferrari , unlike what Schumacher did (albeit with Todt and Barnhardt), I belive that Schumi is one of the better but he never faced any real competition

 

My favorite era of F1 racing was in the 70's with Stewart , Clark, Hill and later Lauda and Regazzoni.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 21 2005 at 09:23

Originally posted by shyman shyman wrote:

Just check the numbers of championships won. There is a pilot who makes the difference here.

Satatistics means almost nothing in racing. A Hungarian driver from the start of the 20th century has a 100% win record in GP but he only entered 2 races, does that make him better than a Schumacher with a 33% win rate, no.

Villeneuve was fast, had amazing car controll beyond anyone before or since and was a team player. He followed team orders that his team mate Jody Scheckter, who won the Monaco GP, should win the title in 79, the only other year he had a car that could challenge for wins he died in (not that uncompetative cars stoped him wining a couple of races). Thats why I think hes the greatest.

And Ivan, Lauda was the fastes qualifier as well as racer in the mid 70's



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 21 2005 at 11:11

Quote And Ivan, Lauda was the fastes qualifier as well as racer in the mid 70's

Yes you're right, but after the accident and specially in 1984, the guy became very careful and started driving with the brain, I remember he even left a race (Believe oit was Monaco, not sure though) because it was heavily raining.

In 1984 it was amazing, I'm almost sure that no other racer has ever won a year without a single pole position and having the best car, because he and Prost drove Mc. Laren and were far ahead of the rest.

But he was always among the most technical drivers ever.

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PS: I know none of us has ever seen Fangio, but no votes?

 

            
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 21 2005 at 11:16
Very very VERY difficult to choose but I went for Senna!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 21 2005 at 11:16

Fangio is my second choice, I mean 4 straight titles AFTER he broke his neck in 52, amazing.

After his crash lauda did drive a lot more with his brain and pulled out of that years Japanese GP at Fuji when he thought it was raining to much. This cost him the title though when Hunt finished 3rd but to still be leading the title at that point is impressive.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 21 2005 at 16:02
bah.. F1 sucks.. I really dont see the fun about making cars racing around.. Cars are an ugly invention.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 21 2005 at 17:23

Its the competative edge of man and machine

and why are they an ugly invention

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