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     I find some of their later stuff just as exciting. Although the
Discipline to Three of a perfect Pair era was very good, a new
phase started with THRAK that was much more interesting.
They performed with a "double trio", like 2 trio bands
simultaneously, with 2 drummers, 2 bassists (or Chapman
Sticks), 2 guitarists, and the materiel was somewhat more
challenging than the Discipline era. Also very ballsy is the 3 CD
Heavy ConstruKtion.
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there are many kings in the great and fabulous progrock kingdom!

Certainly KC are one of the best! (especially for Red!)



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Originally posted by Six Eight Six Eight wrote:

I'm not a big fan for King Crimson. ITCOTCK, Red and Larks' tongues are all nice albums, but I don't think they have a masterpiece or much consistency (in regards to quality) between albums.

My thoughts exactly! Decent albums but no where near masterpiece status!

BTW, does Fripp deliberatley play the guitar out of tune or is he really that bad?
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Originally posted by raindance raindance wrote:

Originally posted by Six Eight Six Eight wrote:

I'm not a big fan for
King Crimson. ITCOTCK, Red and Larks' tongues are all nice
albums, but I don't think they have a masterpiece or much
consistency (in regards to quality) between albums.
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My thoughts exactly! Decent albums but no where near
masterpiece status!


BTW, does Fripp deliberatley play the guitar out of tune or is
he really that bad?



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  They are good but I'd rate them below Yes Genesis  Pink Floyd ELP  Camel and Jethro Tull  in the

prog hierarchy. What drags them down is

(1) Fripp's weak avant gardeisms (Moonchild etc.)

 (2) The final product seems a little underworked. Lizard I think is potentially a masterpiece but in the end it leaves me scratching my head what might have been. Similarly with Larks Tounge in Aspic.

 They were certainly hugely innovative and influential but other groupd ended up with more polished productions

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They are great. I prefer what I've heard from them over what I've heard from Genesis and ELP. They're what got me into progrock.
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I wasn't a big fan until I saw the "discipline" tour and was hooked
forever..short answer...yes they are
who was breaking away from the pack

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The name says it all

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They Rule!!!!!!!!!!1
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Originally posted by andYouandI45 andYouandI45 wrote:

Originally posted by cuncuna cuncuna wrote:

I think they are musicians.

10 points go to cuncuna!

Thanks. So... when do I get them?
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They are the kings of Progressive
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They have an artistis integrety like no other band! They seem to know what their doing as appose to f**kin around. A lot of bands wasted their talent a bit(elp and yes) but crimson made the best with theirs.

 
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Jester Crimson would have been a more appropriate name. They were never King's and probably the most overated band in the annuls of progressive rock.
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King Crimson has gradually grown on me. My first album was Larks' Tongue in Aspic and it was, to say the least, a bit daunting. After getting a few more CDs and listening to them more and more, i'm in love! I recently purchased the 21st Century Guide to King Crimson Vol.s 1 and 2 (8 CDs worth of King goodness!) Listening to ITCOTCK all the way to Power to Believe and yoiu can literally hear the actually "progression"


My favorite CDs are Red, Larks', and Discipline
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King Crimson...I love them cause they have an edge while still having fun. Fripp basically does whatever he feels like on every album, and the result is good because while he tries hard and gives everything he has into it, I feel like he never takes himself too seriously like Yes started doing...and Genesis...and ELP...and a lot of prog rock bands from the 70s. Or I just love that kinda dissonant avant-garde touch all Crimson alubms have.
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Originally posted by FishyMonkey FishyMonkey wrote:

King Crimson...I love them cause they have an edge while still having fun. Fripp basically does whatever he feels like on every album, and the result is good because while he tries hard and gives everything he has into it, I feel like he never takes himself too seriously like Yes started doing...and Genesis...and ELP...and a lot of prog rock bands from the 70s. Or I just love that kinda dissonant avant-garde touch all Crimson alubms have.

Totally disagree. Fripp was too far up his own arse and his sense of humour is zero! This man alone ruined  what ever chance King Crimson had of being remembered as one of the prog greats. Do some reading on KC biographies and you'll know what I'm saying!



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YES!!!

Yes they are the Kings!!!

They just were ahead of everyone in 1969...and still are!
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Originally posted by cuncuna cuncuna wrote:

Originally posted by andYouandI45 andYouandI45 wrote:

Originally posted by cuncuna cuncuna wrote:

I think they are musicians.

10 points go to cuncuna!

Thanks. So... when do I get them?

NOW! ten points!
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I only like Islands. Very musical in a similar vein as Genesis. (Before any want-to-be expert begins snorting at me, I said "similar vein as" - not 'same as' or 'just like'. ) ITCOTCK I enjoyed the first few plays, but the allure wore off rather quickly.

I've listened to other early KC albums, but to me they were composites of disconnected jazz experiments. Didn't even sound like songs. The later albums (Beat, Discipline) didn't appeal to me whatsoever.



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Originally posted by stonebeard stonebeard wrote:

I am King!!!!

You are a cursed king!
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