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Man Overboard
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Posted: January 13 2006 at 18:15 | |||
I really liked DEP's s/t EP and the follow-up Calculating Infinity.
I enjoyed the Irony EP because I like Mike Patton, but I felt the music taking a direction I didn't like... ...to enjoy Miss Machine, I have to think of them as a different band I miss the stuff they did on CI... |
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Moatilliatta
Prog Reviewer Joined: December 01 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 3083 |
Posted: January 13 2006 at 18:12 | |||
Good points. That is what makes them who they are. I will always appreciate them, but possibly never love them. They started a new thing in metal with that ridiculously technical music, and many bands have been forming in that vein, but none of them (save for Between the Bureid and Me) do it as good, or better than them. They all sound the same too. |
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: January 13 2006 at 18:04 | |||
Agreed ... but I think that they would have to add a lot more "contrast" until I would really love their music. And I fear that their initial approach was to be as quirky and "math" as possible, with almost no harmony or repeating, simple patterns. So if they would add many of these elements they would not be DEP anymore ... |
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Moatilliatta
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Posted: January 13 2006 at 17:46 | |||
Somewhat. I know what you mean, but I think that Miss Machine, song-wise, had more contrast than anything else they've done. I think a handful of the tracks on Miss Machine have a clear song structure. Vocally, they have improved. Their first vocalist didn't sing at all; the new guy sings on a couple of tracks, and he has a versatile voice. His scream is brutal, but he can actually sing too. "Baby's First Coffin" is a prime example of his versatility. There is the crazy for the first few minutes, and then they go into that light, melodic part; it is fantastic. The rhythmic pattern remains very odd, but the music is beautfiul. Their music should have more of that in it, but not too much, or that will get old too. Hopefully they will continue to build their sound for their next record. I would definitely like to see more harmonies and the sort. Miss Machine didn't grow on me at all either, but it is the only one I can stand listening to, except for the Patton EP on occasion.
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: January 13 2006 at 17:29 | |||
I liked Miss Machine at first, but it did not grow. I really miss harmonic melodies and clear song structures in their music. I guess this is also what you mean by "contrast". |
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Moatilliatta
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Posted: January 13 2006 at 17:26 | |||
They are not better than Opeth, but they are really good. Sure, their music is tedhnical brilliance, but I think they are a little obnoxious at times. With Miss Machine, they added more variety, but I would really like to see them have more contrast. I can hardly get through a full length. I do love Miss Machine, but only in moderation.
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: January 13 2006 at 17:13 | |||
Yes, the EP is nice. In fact it's my favorite DEP record. |
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goose
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Posted: January 13 2006 at 17:07 | |||
Check the EP with Patton for something excellent. Of course it's over the top
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: January 13 2006 at 16:54 | |||
http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_BAN D.asp?band_id=1929 And NO, they're nowhere near as good as Opeth. Totally over the top, and although I find them interesting, I would not blindly recommend them. But I would recommend Opeth without a shadow of a doubt ... |
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Rashikal
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Posted: January 13 2006 at 16:50 | |||
this band could be described by some as progressive metal, and i think theyre better than opeth techincally, and overall.
thoughts? i think they should be added. they worked with mike patton of mr bungle and fantomas etc. on one album, i think theyre great. |
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listen to Hella |
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