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Points: 29 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 09 2005 at 08:38

Originally posted by Bj-1 Bj-1 wrote:

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...Total ANNIHILATION!! - VDGG

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Points: 31157 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 09 2005 at 08:41
 Love that line
RIO/AVANT/ZEUHL - The best thing you can get with yer pants on!
EXERIOR Experimental tech/death/progmetal from Norway!
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Originally posted by Bj-1 Bj-1 wrote:

 Love that line

yes vdgg is KILLER

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My favorite VDGG is Pawn Hearts
RIO/AVANT/ZEUHL - The best thing you can get with yer pants on!
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my favorite is:

the least we can do is wave to each other

h to he who am the only one

pawn hearts

godbluff

still life

 evertything is great
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Points: 16449 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 09 2005 at 11:07
I think weve all had ebough VDGG on this site for the moment
Spending more than I should on Prog since 2005

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I've got "Godbluff" and "Still Life." "Godbluff" is great, but "Still Life" is... well, not so great. A few good moments, but it's way too lyric-focused and they end up having to force the music to fit the lyrics, however awkward and tasteless it might come out. I've always believed that music comes first and foremost, and good lyricism is just a bonus. Because, quite honestly, if poetry's what I want, T.S. Eliot could do it 500 times better than ANY singer or musician you can name. Lyricism is about fitting lyrics to music, not the other way around. Hammill's voice gets pretty unpleasant in "Still Life" as well. Really harsh and raucous.
The crux of the biscuit is the apostrophe.

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van der graaf is the best band ever.

I love The Aerosl Gray Machine too.
its how everything started
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   Everybody says VDGG  is supergroup ,great band.

  I listened them.Some songs from best album.I don`t like their music.

    

Frank Zappa,Pink Floyd,Yes,Genesis,Rush,King Crimson,Jethro Tull,E.L.P,Rick Wakeman -They have one similarity-    I Love Them all !
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the least we can do is wave to each other, is the allbum you shuld buy if your a newbie, its the easiest to get into have 2 great ballads and the rest is yust fantastic... It gets stranger on H to he... and pawn hearts is yust a total mind f**king freak out! but ofcourse pawn heart is the best its the epic and the one you will never get tierd of once you get into, but very hard to get into for soem people it seems i hadent very big problem becaus i started with the least... then H to he... and then pawn heart so i was prepered to get mind f**ked, to start with Pawn heart whuld heave been Total ANNIHILATION!! start with the first that is the way to go with Van der graaf... Great band one of my favorites, if not favorite.   

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^ I guess only sick-minded people should start with Pawn Hearts then  (I started with PW, btw)
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Biggles Said:

I've always believed that music comes first and foremost, and good lyricism is just a bonus. Because, quite honestly, if poetry's what I want, T.S. Eliot could do it 500 times better than ANY singer or musician you can name. Lyricism is about fitting lyrics to music, not the other way around.

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Yup, totally agree with you here. I think ideally if you've got great lyrics to go with great music, you have achieved perfection(of sorts) in music. Afterall, when discussing MUSIC we are talking about MUSIC right? Poetry is an artform of it's own, as is music. Poetry's depends on words primariliy. Sure, there is metre and rhythm involved but there is no poetry without words. Music depends on sounds/notes. Words can be sung in a musical way, but the voice can be used as an instrument to convey beautiful music without the specific meaning behind words. Music is more emotive and visceral, where lyrics tend towards meaning. When you attach the powerful raw emotionally power of music with the meaning in lyrics and poetry, you have achieved greatness in a hybrid of music and lyricism/poetry. Sorry about that digression....

    Pawn Hearts is an amazing album. A Plague of Lighthouse Keepers is a classic Prog Rock epic. I'd recommend Gobluff as a followup, a really solid album though not as strung out as PH!

   
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