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Paleviper
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Posted: February 25 2006 at 04:01 |
No
The Beach Boys and Brian Wilson in particular are brilliant, one of the
highlights of last year for me was buying Brian Wilsons - Smile
concived in 1969's and finally released in 2005 a work of genius but
not what I would call progressive
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Easy Livin
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Joined: February 21 2004
Location: Scotland
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Points: 15585
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Posted: February 25 2006 at 05:27 |
In 1976, Alan Freeman, a well known British DJ had a Saturday afternoon rock show on the BBC in which he played a lot of wonderful music. At the end of the year, he did a run down of the 50 best selling rock albums of 1976. It included such great albums as "Ommadawn", "Led Zeppelin 4", "Viva - Roxy Music live", "Olias of Sunhillow", "L (Hillage), "Wish you were here", "Trick of the tail" etc.
I will never forget my disappointment, when after waiting two days to hear what the number one was, it turned out to be "The Beach Boys greatest hits"! Now I love the msuic of the Beach Boys, but a great rock album? I think not.
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oliverstoned
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Posted: February 25 2006 at 05:53 |
Kid-A wrote:
in a word,
<FONT size=7>NO
I think that if the beach boys go on here the site will loose all credibility | It will loose really much credibily than with Queen and Radiohead's inclusion?
Edited by oliverstoned
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: February 25 2006 at 06:13 |
oliverstoned wrote:
Kid-A wrote:
in a word,
NO
I think that if the beach boys go on here the site will loose all credibility
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I will loose really much credibily than with Queen and Radiohead's inclusion? |
I guess you're not familiar with Radiohead ... if you were, you would not have asked someone with the nickname "Kid-A" ...
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oliverstoned
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Posted: February 26 2006 at 04:40 |
Yes, nice coincidence!
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daz2112
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Joined: January 18 2006
Location: England
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Posted: February 26 2006 at 14:33 |
NO!
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In the constellation of cygnus,There lurks a mysterious force...The black hole
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Thyme Traveler
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Joined: February 12 2006
Location: United States
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Posted: February 26 2006 at 21:30 |
Moogtron III wrote:
The Beach Boys influenced the Beatles a bit, and vice versa, so maybe they're proto-proto-prog or something like that . They're prog-related because of the intricate song structures and some epics. Maybe they're distant relatives, prog and the Beach Boys, but their is a relationship.
Brian Wilson's Smile is very much prog related. The album consists more or less of three long epics. Many prog fans will like this, highly recommended! It's the best new album I heard in the last three years.
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I was about to say Pet Sounds was "proto-proto-prog" until I saw your post. The question is , is there enough "there" to consider it prog, and I think the answer is no.
Perhaps the Beach Boys were "Proto-Progressive Pop".
I think the Proto-Prog category is a little bit dangerous. Did Chuck Berry influence prog ? Certainly, just as he influenced all Rock music. Buddy Holly ? Les Paul ? Beethoven ? Pythagoras ? I think the Beatles are as far down that road as we want to go (and should go). Some of us didn't even want to go that far.
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DrWizard
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Joined: March 18 2006
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Posted: March 19 2006 at 16:38 |
NOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!
What is the world coming to!?
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Dragon Phoenix
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Joined: August 31 2004
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Points: 1475
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Posted: March 19 2006 at 16:40 |
Please let it stop.
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Blog this: http://artrock2006.blogspot.com
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stonebeard
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Joined: May 27 2005
Location: NE Indiana
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Posted: March 19 2006 at 17:04 |
"Surfin' USA" was the first prog epic! Of Course they should be included!
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Moogtron III
Prog Reviewer
Joined: April 26 2005
Location: Belgium
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Points: 10616
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Posted: March 20 2006 at 03:04 |
Thyme Traveler wrote:
Moogtron III wrote:
The Beach Boys influenced the Beatles a bit, and vice versa, so maybe they're proto-proto-prog or something like that . They're prog-related because of the intricate song structures and some epics. Maybe they're distant relatives, prog and the Beach Boys, but their is a relationship.
Brian Wilson's Smile is very much prog related. The album consists more or less of three long epics. Many prog fans will like this, highly recommended! It's the best new album I heard in the last three years.
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I was about to say Pet Sounds was "proto-proto-prog" until I saw your post. The question is , is there enough "there" to consider it prog, and I think the answer is no.
Perhaps the Beach Boys were "Proto-Progressive Pop".
I think the Proto-Prog category is a little bit dangerous. Did Chuck Berry influence prog ? Certainly, just as he influenced all Rock music. Buddy Holly ? Les Paul ? Beethoven ? Pythagoras ? I think the Beatles are as far down that road as we want to go (and should go). Some of us didn't even want to go that far.
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I do think the Beach Boys with their subtle harmonies and adventurous production were an influence that can easily be underrated. You're right, though, with your Chuck Berry-remark. The Beach Boys weren't prog rock, but maybe proto-proto-prog pop.
Still, many prog fans would like Brian Wilson's Smile, I still mean that. Many would hate it too , but it's also true that many would love it.
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Dick Heath
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Location: England
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Posted: March 20 2006 at 04:42 |
Catholic Flame wrote:
There is more going on in the 2 and 1/2 minutes of Good Vibrations than in most 25 minute songs.
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Always felt it was odd the stereo version was an afterthought........
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Chicapah
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Joined: February 14 2006
Location: United States
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Points: 8238
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Posted: March 21 2006 at 12:26 |
If the Beach Boys are prog then so are Jan and Dean, especially for their song "The Anaheim Azusa and Cucamonga Sewing Circle, Book Review and Timing Association." I can't tell you how embarassing it is to admit that I can remember that song title. Kinda like remembering Dave, Dee, Dozy, Beaky, Mick and Tish. Jeez....
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"Literature is well enough, as a time-passer, and for the improvement and general elevation and purification of mankind, but it has no practical value" - Mark Twain
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Meddler
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Joined: September 29 2005
Location: Massillon
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Points: 881
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Posted: March 21 2006 at 17:03 |
If the Beach Boys are inducted to the archives, then surely Matisyahu should be.
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