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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 27 2006 at 15:37

Yeah that whole Ozzy debacle is an absolute disgrace....the older versions have sadly been deleted now though I believe, so newer fans will hear those synthetic versions instead.

As for The Beatles and remastering? I definitely think the albums need remastering and upgrading, but if there's one thing I hate it's revisionism/remixing when it's not required. If it's not broke, why fix it?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 27 2006 at 14:13

Originally posted by PROGMAN PROGMAN wrote:

I wish Ozzy would realise you can't impriove the music by having drums and bass guitars re-recorded, very shameful Ozzy Osbourne!!

AVOID THESE:

Blizzard of Ozz (2002 remaster)
Diary of a Madman (2002 remaster)

just get the original 1980 or remastered 1995 versions!!

Thats a shame he did that. I like the original sound on those Ozzy albums. Tommy Aldridge's drums sound brilliant on 'Diary of a Madman'

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 27 2006 at 13:27
Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

The songs on this CD have been either tidied (a mistake in the double tracking of McCartney's vocal at the start of the first verse of "Eleanor Rigby" has been removed), enhanced (the vocals at the beginning of "All you need is love") or altered (Lennon's repetitions in the last verse of "Yellow Submarine" start after the first line instead of the second).


God knows what the reasoning is behind this kind of thing. "Uh oh, The Beatles' reputation will be in tatters if consumers, on purchasing this cash-in compilation, are subjected to the same minute imperfections they grew up listening to!"

I haven't heard a Beatles CD release with sound I actively object to, though
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 27 2006 at 13:18
Originally posted by PROGMAN PROGMAN wrote:

remaster it but don't alter anything, just improve the sound, not change any recording!!

I agree.  George Martin was great, and all of the old vinyls sound fine, but the CDs don't sound so good.  And the tracklists even have typos (White Album).
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 27 2006 at 13:05
Originally posted by yankeerose yankeerose wrote:

 move on chopper god  enuff allready with the beatles

If you're so fed up with Beatles threads, why do you keep reading and posting in them? Anyway, if you read it properly, this was intended to kick off a discussion about remastering any band's old recordings.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 27 2006 at 13:01
 move on chopper god  enuff allready with the beatles
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 27 2006 at 13:01
Weren't the Beatles albums delayed for a long time before being released on CD (cf. advent of commercial CDs) - didn't this have to have Michael Jackson's approval, as owner of the songs' copyright?????? Every one was remastered as far as I remember too?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 27 2006 at 12:59
I wish Ozzy would realise you can't impriove the music by having drums and bass guitars re-recorded, very shameful Ozzy Osbourne!!

AVOID THESE:

Blizzard of Ozz (2002 remaster)
Diary of a Madman (2002 remaster)

just get the original 1980 or remastered 1995 versions!!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 27 2006 at 12:57
Sometimes Vinyl is better!!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 27 2006 at 12:57
remaster it but don't alter anything, just improve the sound, not change any recording!!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 27 2006 at 12:56

I like to hear old recordings as they were.

I'm no authority on The Beatles, but my friends father has nost of their albums - original releases on vinyl - he's looked after them well, and they sound fantastic! In fact MY vinyl of Sgt Pepper sounds better IMO than my CD..

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 27 2006 at 12:56
Overall, i found that the current Cds version are bad, like for PF. They should give the job to Bob Ludwig.
He's the man!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 27 2006 at 12:49
This follows on from my review of the Yellow Submarine songtrack (http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=70307) . The songs on this CD have been either tidied (a mistake in the double tracking of McCartney's vocal at the start of the first verse of "Eleanor Rigby" has been removed), enhanced (the vocals at the beginning of "All you need is love") or altered (Lennon's repetitions in the last verse of "Yellow Submarine" start after the first line instead of the second).
I'm personally not in favour of removing all the glitches and errors from Beatles records as, for me, that's part of their attraction - to what extent do you think The Beatles' (or indeed any other band's) old recordings should be remastered or altered?


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