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BroSpence 
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 Posted: March 24 2007 at 17:38 |
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Vai by far.
Satch bores me, although Midnight is a beautiful song.
Vai isan amazing musician and a great performer. He has that Zappa oddness about him, he can phrase wonderful solos, write great songs and suites, and enjoys the wonders of non-western music and incorporates it into his music. He's got a decent voice too.
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Posted: March 25 2007 at 00:03 |
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If we defer to Joe Satriani's guitar knowledge, he's stated himself that Steve Vai is the better player. When Joe wrote Mystical potato head thing, he had to practice very hard to get what he heard in his head to come out on guitar. When he played it for Steve, well, Vai played it note for note as if he'd been playing it for years.
But both kick most guitarists (including the usual "prog" giants) A** easily & consistently.
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Posted: April 01 2007 at 12:42 |
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Neither. For me BO DIDLEY!!!
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Drew
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Posted: April 01 2007 at 12:44 |
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SATCH!! MORE MUSICAL!!
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Posted: September 22 2007 at 16:11 |
 el böthy wrote:
I prefer Satriani way over Vai...I just don´t like him very much...althought I must admit that technically he is "better" than Satriani |
How so?
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Posted: September 22 2007 at 16:17 |
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
I wonder how many of you all even know Vai's Flexable albums - or his work with the Metropole Orkest. Like 10x more creative than what Satriani ever did ... and I am a Satriani fan, don't get me wrong. But apart from Surfing with the Alien and Engines of Creation I cannot find nearly as much adventurous stuff as Vai has on ALL his albums. |
I think that's just it. Many don't enjoy Vai's "adventurousness".
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Posted: September 22 2007 at 16:21 |
staunchally wrote:
el böthy wrote:
I prefer Satriani way over Vai...I just don´t like him very much...althought I must admit that technically he is "better" than Satriani |
How so? |
He shows off more, basically. 
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activetopics
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Posted: September 23 2007 at 00:04 |
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satch. did you know he taught vai? (bad joke...heh)
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Posted: September 23 2007 at 00:10 |
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Satch hands down for composition - 'Time Machine', 'Echo', 'Circles', 'Ice 9', 'Hordes of Locusts' - but Vai wins on tech... depends what you like
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Posted: September 23 2007 at 00:13 |
Satch, super collosal is incredible.
It seems like when you've heard one Vai song, you've heard 'em all  |
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Posted: September 24 2007 at 05:27 |
No one mentioned.
Jeff Beck.
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Posted: September 24 2007 at 05:53 |
schizoid_man77 wrote:
Satch, super collosal is incredible.
It seems like when you've heard one Vai song, you've heard 'em all |
Super Colossal was a very, very disappointing album for me ... one word: "boring" ! As far as Vai is concerned ... do you even know Vai songs other than For the Love of God? Consider other well known songs such as Bad Horsie, Answers, Sisters, Call it Sleep?, The Attitude Song, ... are you really saying that they all sound alike?
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Posted: September 24 2007 at 12:44 |
staunchally wrote:
el böthy wrote:
I prefer Satriani way over Vai...I just don´t like him very much...althought I must admit that technically he is "better" than Satriani |
How so? |
Vai is more technically adept with more speed and precision. Furthermore, he has the benefit of a music education from Berklee. Personally, I prefer Vai because I find his playing and songwriting more interesting; he's like a more technical version of Frank Zappa, with whom he played early on.
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staunchally
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Posted: September 24 2007 at 16:55 |
jimidom wrote:
staunchally wrote:
el böthy wrote:
I prefer Satriani way over Vai...I just don´t like him very much...althought I must admit that technically he is "better" than Satriani |
How so? |
Vai is more technically adept with more speed and precision. Furthermore, he has the benefit of a music education from Berklee. Personally, I prefer Vai because I find his playing and songwriting more interesting; he's like a more technical version of Frank Zappa, with whom he played early on. |
Well, I disagree that Vai has more speed and precision. Furthermore, formal education doesn't mean anything unless you're a pseudo-intellectual 14 year old who happens to be impressed by such things. (I've been to Berklee). I'm aware he played with Zappa, compositionally they are similar, guitar-wise they are very different.
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Posted: September 24 2007 at 18:42 |
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Vai, what a great shredder guitarist!
BTW, what's the story behind this? Who is teacher and who's the student?
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Posted: September 25 2007 at 02:47 |
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Satriani gave Vai guitar lessons in the early 70s. According to Wikipedia Vai was 13 years old and Satriani was 17 years old at that time, and the lessons lasted only for a few years. I'd say that Vai's style was much more influenced by his years with Zappa though ...
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Posted: September 25 2007 at 21:51 |
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
schizoid_man77 wrote:
Satch, super collosal is incredible.
It seems like when you've heard one Vai song, you've heard 'em all |
Super Colossal was a very, very disappointing album for me ... one word: "boring" !
As far as Vai is concerned ... do you even know Vai songs other than For the Love of God? Consider other well known songs such as Bad Horsie, Answers, Sisters, Call it Sleep?, The Attitude Song, ... are you really saying that they all sound alike?
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You just named a few songs which don't sound alike to Joe because obviously the guy isn't an identical clone; but most of the important stuff composed by Vai sound clearly influenced by Joe and Zappa; at least for me, a blend not suitable at all 
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The best you can is good enough...
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kikeonline
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Posted: September 28 2007 at 10:00 |
Vai
I think Vai has a more experimental sound, he nost afraid of writng something new
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Posted: September 28 2007 at 10:14 |
sircosick wrote:
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
schizoid_man77 wrote:
Satch, super collosal is incredible.
It seems like when you've heard one Vai song, you've heard 'em all |
Super Colossal was a very, very disappointing album for me ... one word: "boring" !
As far as Vai is concerned ... do you even know Vai songs other than For the Love of God? Consider other well known songs such as Bad Horsie, Answers, Sisters, Call it Sleep?, The Attitude Song, ... are you really saying that they all sound alike?
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You just named a few songs which don't sound alike to Joe because obviously the guy isn't an identical clone;
I wasn't comparing Vai's songs to Satriani's songs, I was comparing Vai songs to each other.
but most of the important stuff composed by Vai sound clearly influenced by Joe and Zappa; at least for me, a blend not suitable at all
IMO it's ridiculous to say that Vai sounds like Satriani just because at one time Satch gave lessons to Vai. The trademark songs of each of them were written in the 80s and afterwards, a decade after those lessons had taken place and both artists had developed significantly since then.
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Posted: September 28 2007 at 10:21 |
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It's a close call, since they are both the most progressive shredders out there, and make music as opposing to simply flaunting their skill. I'm gonna go with Vai, just cause I get into his stuff more, but I still love me some Satch.
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