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Topic: Richard Sinclair Posted: April 30 2006 at 06:43 |
sinclair is a genius
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Raff
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Posted: April 30 2006 at 05:35 |
Perhaps you're right as regards Camel - though he sings and plays wonderfully on "A Live Record". I quite agree with you about "Down on the Farm" sounding more like Caravan than Camel - BTW, this track is to be found on the vastly inferior "Breathless", and is IMHO one of the best tracks on the album.
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Tony Fisher
Prog Reviewer Joined: April 30 2005 Location: England Status: Offline Points: 967 |
Posted: April 30 2006 at 05:30 |
I admire greatly his work with Caravan and Hatfield and the North and he's undoubtedly a fine bass player and singer, with a very idiosyncratic, English voice, but I've never been convinced that he really fitted in with Camel that well.
The best bass playing on Rain Dances is on the track where Latimer plays bass since Sinclair was "AWOL". His singing and songwriting makes Camel sound too much like Caravan (Down on the Farm would have fitted a Caravan album perfectly but sticks out like a sore thumb on Rain Dances). |
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Rocktopus
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Posted: April 30 2006 at 04:43 |
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I wish him all the best too. As a matter of fact, I've read
somewhere that he was moving to Lecce, in South-east Italy. It would be
great if I got to see him live in Rome sometime... though I tend to be
rather shy and would probably not approach him after a gig.
That said, I agree with your choices. I'm no great fan of Pye
Hastings's voice, but that Caravan song is great. My favourite, though,
is (quite obviously) the marvellous "Winter Wine", and I also love
Richard's vocals on "Hello Hello" and "Disassociation 100% Proof".
All his songs on "The Rotters' Club" are utterly magnificent, and
demonstrate his vocal prowess. I have some brief experience of singing
in a choir (many years ago!), and I know how important proper control
of breathing can be for a singer, especially when the lyrics are
particularly long and elaborate. Just listen to "Share It" - a less
skillful vocalist would have killed the song.
"Summer Lightning" is another favourite of mine, in spite of the
disco beat. Latimer's solo and Richard's vocals vastly improve what
would only be a commercial number in the hands of somebody else. Then,
as I said before, I also like "Down on the Farm" quite a lot... It's
funny and uplifiting, and not easy to sing at all. [/QUOTE]I can't think of any song with his vocals on including 'Down on the Farm', I dislike. I tried to pick three great songs that weren't the most obvious choices, although 'Halfway Between...' seems to be everyone's favorite. Hello Hello is another favorite. I have it in three different versions. Two on the remaster, but this (The link will work for six days, or 25 downloads) one is my favorite. I don't know where its from. Anyone who does? He will also sing on the norwegian Canteburyinspired band Panzerpappa's fourthcoming album. And I've noticed you've mentioned him in different posts Ghost Rider. But there were no threads on him I could bring back to life, so I started one. Edited by Rocktopus - April 30 2006 at 05:56 |
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VanderGraafKommandöh
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Posted: April 29 2006 at 01:39 |
Oh, my apologies, I automatically think most people are male on here, thank you for the correction!
Ian Anderson does jump about a lot, but you'll be pleased to know, no codpiece is in site! I think you're going to enjoy it, good look with that Oh and it's always nice to get acquainted with another woman on the archives. |
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Raff
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Posted: April 29 2006 at 01:32 |
Well... ehm... how should I put it... I'm not in the habit of looking at other women too long, as I am one myself. However, I recently bought "A" with the bonus DVD "Slipstream" and spent the whole time drooling at Eddie Jobson.
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VanderGraafKommandöh
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Posted: April 29 2006 at 01:12 |
I saw JT last month, it was a most excellent concert.
A word of warning though: The violinist is erm, very nice! You'll probably be looking at her all evening. |
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Raff
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Posted: April 28 2006 at 23:52 |
Probably I did... These days I find it hard to remember where I get all the information from. There's so much around! Anyway, I wonder why Lecce.... I've never been there, though the city is said to be quite beautiful and my father worked there for some time. Hopefully, if Richard does move to Italy, he will play in Rome at least once. It would really be great to be able to see him live.
BTW, in two weeks' time I'm seeing Jethro Tull in Rome, then tell you all about it...
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VanderGraafKommandöh
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Posted: April 28 2006 at 15:30 |
I think you got that fact he was moving to Lecce from me, as I've mentioned it a few times on here. He said he was moving to Italy to me, when I spoke to him after the Hatfields gig. His cousin David Sinclair is currently in Japan I believe. It does seem that he's still able to make a new album, or tour with Hatfield and the North, despite his move to Lecce. Edited by Geck0 - April 28 2006 at 15:31 |
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Dick Heath
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Posted: April 28 2006 at 12:39 |
We've been this way before. However, it is worth repeating, there are three fine vocals by Sinclair on Theo Travis's otherwise jazz -oriented instrumental album (of 2 years ago) Earth To Ether (33 Records of UK). In reviewing the album UK magazine Jazzwise stated that Richard Sinclair and Robert Wyatt are rare and great examples of the English jazz voice - i.e. singers of jazz in English, who don't affect an American accent or stresses to the lyrics, unlike Brit Jamie Callum..................
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Raff
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Posted: April 28 2006 at 03:35 |
I wish him all the best too. As a matter of fact, I've read somewhere that he was moving to Lecce, in South-east Italy. It would be great if I got to see him live in Rome sometime... though I tend to be rather shy and would probably not approach him after a gig.
That said, I agree with your choices. I'm no great fan of Pye Hastings's voice, but that Caravan song is great. My favourite, though, is (quite obviously) the marvellous "Winter Wine", and I also love Richard's vocals on "Hello Hello" and "Disassociation 100% Proof".
All his songs on "The Rotters' Club" are utterly magnificent, and demonstrate his vocal prowess. I have some brief experience of singing in a choir (many years ago!), and I know how important proper control of breathing can be for a singer, especially when the lyrics are particularly long and elaborate. Just listen to "Share It" - a less skillful vocalist would have killed the song.
"Summer Lightning" is another favourite of mine, in spite of the disco beat. Latimer's solo and Richard's vocals vastly improve what would only be a commercial number in the hands of somebody else. Then, as I said before, I also like "Down on the Farm" quite a lot... It's funny and uplifiting, and not easy to sing at all.
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The Wizard
Prog Reviewer Joined: July 18 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 7341 |
Posted: April 27 2006 at 17:53 |
I love his singing. His voice is the voice of british humor. And his bass playing is great. Especially on aristocracy.
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Fritha
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Posted: April 27 2006 at 17:44 |
I tend to kind of overlook vocals most of the time but Richard Sinclair is one of the great exceptions; his tone is very special to me and I love it dearly. Winter Wine, Frozen Rose, Halfway Between Heaven and Earth, Keep On Caring...all lovely songs, made even lovelier with THAT voice
I just got the recent solo album by Theo Travis called Earth To Ether on which Richard sings on three tracks. His voice is remarkably intact!
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Norm Cash
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Posted: April 27 2006 at 10:54 |
Got to agree with all the sentiments here!
I recently picked up Sinclair's 2 "Caravan Of Dreams" discs. The live one - "An Evening Of Magic" - is terrific. Well worth a listen.
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Andrea Cortese
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Posted: April 27 2006 at 09:32 |
I like very much Richard Sinclair musical skills and vocals! Caravan are Caravan no more after his departure!!
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Andrea Cortese
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Posted: April 27 2006 at 09:30 |
What a great avatar!! (Blue Oyster Cult's symbol)
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Raff
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Posted: April 27 2006 at 06:36 |
AT LAST!!!! Did any of you read any of my recent posts? I seem to mention him every other post these days... Fantastic voice, one of the best ever. Why people keep praising the likes of John Wetton or (God forbid) James LaBrie and forget R.S. is beyond me.
BTW, let's start a fan club, as there's quite a few of us here....
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oliverstoned
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Posted: April 27 2006 at 05:10 |
Indeed, a very soft, gentle and pleasant voice. The english hippie dandy! |
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Moogtron III
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Posted: April 27 2006 at 05:02 |
Long live Richard Sinclair. Intelligent guy, by the way. Has a very progressive view on music, still today. Did you know that he used to play music with his fans together at his home? Amazing! A great guy , and he's got a beautiful voice.
I like him the most on Caravan's In The Land Of Grey And Pink, on Winter Wine especially. |
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Rocktopus
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Posted: April 27 2006 at 03:55 |
And I Wish I was Stoned and Winter Wine is also great. I could have picked almost any song from 'If I Could..' or 'Grey and Pink'.
To Caravan classics but Hatfield and the North (not counting Wyatt's Rock Bottom) is my favorite Sinclair band. Share it is the funniest albumopener I've heard. I think the term underrated must be allowed in this case, because that is exactly what he is. There is a thread here called 'What is so good about The Rotter's Club?'. Well I think its full of intersting musical ideas, humour and melancholy, wonderful singing and playing, great melodies, its original and genre defining. Its also a complex listening pleasure that takes time to get into. And when you get into it there's always something new to discover, which means you never have to grow tired of it. I guess I think he should be a too well known and respected legend for fans to even have the guts to walk up to him and have a chat, Geck0. Great to see another fan of Secret Chiefs 3 here as well, Tenth Chaffinch. Book of Horizons is my (one of my few) prog album favorite from the last couple of years. Has anyone heard The Wilde Flowers? They sure have an interesting line up. Edited by Rocktopus - April 27 2006 at 04:34 |
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