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    Posted: May 18 2006 at 14:03
Kevin Gilbert was a master lyricist (among many other things), IMO.

Below are the lyrics from "Joytown", from Thud:

Fathers they have big hands and they pat gently on your head
Mothers always make sure everyone is happy and well fed
And everything is instant, no one has to wait to long
And Lennon never has to sing a Paul McCartney song

We're living here in Joytown, the City of the Sun
And everyone loves everyone loves every single one

No one sells his roommate's stuff so he can get a fix
And no one fears the darkness, no one fears the number six
Everyone talks openly of great things they have read
And no one ever says the things that are better left unsaid
And everyone has someone they can share their sadness with
No one leaves the slightest doubt, no one takes the fifth

Jesus and Muhammed and Buddha live in town
Zoraster and Ba'h'aula and Moses hangs around
And when they get together they are quite a noisy crew
They laugh about their legacies over cigarettes and brew

Senator McCarthy enjoys a book by Marx
And people tear down parking lots
So they can build more parks
And Jimi plays the perfect note that never seems to end
and Martin Luther King has got a blond white girlfriend

We're singing here in Joytown
Won't you come and sing along?
We'll never tell you that you ain't singing the right notes,
Never criticize your song.


Note the verses highlighted in blue. Now take a look at the lyrics from "Fly on the Windscreen" from Genesis' The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway:


Echoes of the Broadway Everglades,
With her mythical madonnas still walking in their shades:
Lenny Bruce, declares a truce and plays his other hand.
Marshall McLuhan, casual viewin', head buried in the sand.
Sirens on the rooftops wailing, but there's no ship sailing.
Groucho, with his movies trailing, stands alone with his punchline failing.
Klu Klux Klan serve hot soul food and the band plays 'In the Mood'
The cheerleader waves her cyanide wand, there's a smell of
peach blossom and bitter almonde.
Caryl Chessman sniffs the air and leads the parade, he know in a scent,
you can bottle all you made.
There's Howard Hughes in blue suede shoes, smiling at the majorettes
smoking Winston Cigarettes.
And as the song and dance begins, the children play at home
with needles; needles and pins.

Notice any similarities? Big smile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 18 2006 at 14:12
Well yes, but I don't really care ,the two songs are entirley different when listening too them. You don't ge the same feel at all.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 18 2006 at 14:16
Originally posted by GPFR GPFR wrote:

Well yes, but I don't really care ,the two songs are entirley different when listening too them. You don't ge the same feel at all.


I'm in no way implying plagiarism, I just think it's kinda cool.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 19 2006 at 12:50
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Can't push coincidence too far, however, if I see something similar on an album coming out of Boston, North Carolina (ah hem)Wacko, I will know the reason!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 19 2006 at 14:04
One could borrow from worse sources, for sure! Wink

That said, I disavow any foreknowledge of any potential similarities in advance. Geek

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 19 2006 at 15:09
I''m sorry but I don't see an similarities
"One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. "
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 19 2006 at 23:05
Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

I''m sorry but I don't see an similarities


Here, I'll distill it even more:

Gilbert:
Senator McCarthy enjoys a book by Marx

Gabriel:
Klu Klux Klan serve hot soul food

They're both using paradoxes to create a fantasy world.


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