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The Wizard 
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 Posted: June 08 2006 at 22:04 |
 eddietrooper wrote:
If a ballad is a slow song then my choice is Life On Mars (David Bowie).
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Incredible song! 
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imoeng
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Posted: June 08 2006 at 22:30 |
Scorpion - You And I, Wind Of Change, you know, many others
Bon Jovi - Bed of Roses, Always (absolutely)
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tdreamer
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Posted: June 09 2006 at 10:06 |
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The Carpet Crawl original version is one of the most emotionallt beautiful songs of all time.
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OrionCrystalIce
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Posted: June 09 2006 at 20:18 |
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Let me lay down a few of mine...
Styx - Suite Madame Blue (I THINK it counts.....any way you slice it...it's pretty ultimate)
Rage - Fading Hours
Labyrinth - Falling Rain
Zero Hour - Reflections
Dark Moor - The Sound of the Blade
Opeth - To Bid You Farewell
King Crimson - The Night Watch
Spock's Beard - Ghosts of Autumn
Threshold - Falling Away
W.A.S.P. - Hold On To My Heart
Camel - Spirit of the Water (short, but oh so sweet!)
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black star, white light 
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Jester
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Posted: June 10 2006 at 10:00 |
"Love Me Tender" - Elvis Presley
"Baby, I Love Your Way" - Peter Frampton
"The Wonder of You" - Elvis Presley
"(Are You) Lonesome Tonight" - Elvis Presley
"Thousand Island Parks" - The Mahavishnu Orchestra
"A Lotus on Irish Streams" - The Mahavishnu Orchestra
"Don't Think Twice, It's Alright" - Bob Dylan
"Lady 95'" - Styx
"Teenager In Love" - Dion & the Belmonts
"The Only Living Boy In New York" - Simon & Garfunkel
"Heroes" - David Bowie (Yes, it's a ballad....)
"Bridge Over Troubled Water" - Simon & Garfunkel
"Try A Little Tenderness" - Otis Redding
"Sittin' On the Dock of the Bay" - Otis Redding
"This Magic Moment" - The Drifters
"18 and Life" - Skid Row
"Thank You" - Led Zeppelin
And so many more that I don't feel like mentioning...
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Jimbo
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Posted: June 10 2006 at 15:51 |
It's impossible to remember them all, but here are a few of my favorites:
Wigwam - Lost Without A Trace
Neil Young - Will To Love
The Beatles - Because (not sure is this a ballad per se, but who cares)
Tom Waits - Town With No Cheer
The Beach Boys - God Only Knows (it may be cheesy, but I like it  )
Nick Drake - Fruit Tree
Jim Pembroke - Just My Situation
Peter Gabriel & Kate Bush - Don't Give Up
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Zargus
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Posted: June 10 2006 at 16:09 |
tdreamer wrote:
The Carpet Crawl original version is one of the most emotionallt beautiful songs of all time. |
Aw gawd how culd i forget The carpet crawlers? no doubt the best ballad from Genesis also Lamia from the same album is incredibly good ballad. 
Edited by Zargus - June 11 2006 at 06:48
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Teaflax
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Posted: June 11 2006 at 03:55 |
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Please. The Carpet Crawlers.
And why doesn't it surprise me that a DT fan lists thing like The Winds
of Change? It just goes to show that you do have to have tolerance for
that kind of stuff to take particularly much of DT.
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WaywardSon
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Posted: June 11 2006 at 07:45 |
Teaflax wrote:
Please. The Carpet Crawlers.
And why doesn't it surprise me that a DT fan lists thing like The Winds of Change? It just goes to show that you do have to have tolerance for that kind of stuff to take particularly much of DT.
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"Winds of Change" is a Scorpions classic, also "Still loving you"
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Teaflax
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Posted: June 11 2006 at 07:57 |
RycheMan wrote:
"Winds of Change" is a Scorpions classic, also "Still loving you" |
You're really out to prove my point for me, aren't you?
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WaywardSon
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Posted: June 11 2006 at 08:09 |
^^^^
Teaflax, a lot of people like Wind of Change, not only Dream Theater or Prog Metal fans. Why jump on his post, nobody jumped on your post when you said Tom Jones.
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Teaflax
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Posted: June 11 2006 at 09:29 |
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Because it vindicates what I have been saying about the strong
Mainstream Rock component in bands like DT. Winds of Change is a tune
that with only minor changes in arrangement (if even that) would fit
well into the repertoire of Celine Dion, Westlife, Ronan Keating or
some other chart acts.
There have been some voices raised against my pointing out the
incredibly mainstreamish aspects of DT (and other bands like SB), but
the fact that some of their bigger defenders will step up and admit to
liking this sort of music just underlines what I've been saying all
along.
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WaywardSon
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Posted: June 11 2006 at 09:55 |
^^^^
I thought this thread was about The best ballad of all time. Itīs also posted in Non Prog Music. Most ballads are mainstreamish.
I think you are arguing for the sake of arguing, I agree Wind of change is mainstream, so are 99% of the ballads that people have listed here.
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Teaflax
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Posted: June 11 2006 at 10:10 |
RycheMan wrote:
Most ballads are mainstreamish. |
Uh-huh. Right. If that makes you feel better about things, fine.
You keep underlining my point, over and over.
Edit: No, I do not argue just for the sake of it, in fact; I wasn't even arguing.
I was making a clear and honest statement about what this acceptance
and even praising of something like Winds of Change (or - for the love
of all that is holy and good; Bed of Roses) says about the
bands championed by the same people as being all Prog-heavy and special
and not mainstreamy at allll. The argument - such as it is - began when
this rather obvious connection was denied.
Edited by Teaflax - June 11 2006 at 10:22
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Rocktopus
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Posted: June 11 2006 at 10:22 |
RycheMan wrote:
Wind of change is mainstream, so are 99% of the ballads that people have listed here. |
True about that ballad, not at all true about what other (atleast not me) people have listed.
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Over land and under ashes
In the sunlight, see - it flashes
Find a fly and eat his eye
But don't believe in me
Don't believe in me
Don't believe in me
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WaywardSon
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Posted: June 11 2006 at 10:48 |
I agree with you Teaflax, some songs of Spockīs Beard are mainstream, take a song like "I wouldnīt let it go" off Octane, the vocalist sounds a lot like Bon Jovi on that track.
Some of the songs on The Ladder by Yes are mainstream.
I guess at the end of the day a lot of people get tired of swimming against the current.
Am I making any sense?!
Edited by RycheMan - June 11 2006 at 10:48
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Teaflax
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Posted: June 11 2006 at 12:00 |
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I know what you're saying, RM, and I have no problem with it at all,
except that it's rarely acknowledged as being a strong component of the
acts I mention. Instead they're time and again touted as the the top
bands of Progdom, the modern saviors of Prog and/or an alternative to
the mainstream.
They're just not, however much people might like them, because they're
simply not Prog in all aspects - and I'm not talking about an
occasional individual song that features mostly simple tonality and
melody, but how it inevitably crops up even in the more complex epics.
They take some of the overt signs of Prog and marry them to very
commonplace songwriting - I personally don't see the point of doing
that, but if it's what floats your boat, great. My point here - and I
was careful (at first) not to be too denigrating of the material itself
- was that the connection was rather telling; a tolerance of power
balladry and a love of these AOR-Prog acts.
Old classic Prog at its best featured both instrumental and structural trickery and songwriting
with some depth (meaning melodies that go beyond Blues-pentatonic, that
shift through different keys, use unusual phrasings and timings and
that do not repeat the same melodic line over and over - more Gershwin
than Jagger, more Bacharach than Chuck Berry, more Gilbert &
Sullivan than CCR).
Given the choice of getting rid of one of those aspects, I'd rather
dump the odd meters and trickery - much as I can love that - and just
keep the intricate songwriting, whereas others obviously prefer the
opposite.
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WaywardSon
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Posted: June 11 2006 at 12:19 |
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Ah now I see what you are getting at, good post BTW.
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Teaflax
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Posted: June 11 2006 at 12:29 |
Thanks, RM. I appreciate that. 
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daz2112
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Posted: June 13 2006 at 14:07 |
Elvis Presley - Memories 
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