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Topic: Ogden's Nut Gone Flake Posted: June 11 2006 at 04:11 |
This seminal Small Faces album has just been reissued as a 3 CD set in a round tobacco tin. It has some great songs on it but it's a really bizarre album, possibly the most bizarre by a mainstream pop act (with the possible exception of "Smiley Smile"). What do you think?
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Rocktopus
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Posted: June 11 2006 at 10:08 |
I have the ordinary, boring looking CD version. But I love the music. Especially the second part on the album.
During 67-69 almost all mainstream pop greats had one or two pretty
bizzare classic out. The well known/respected: Pretty Things, Kinks,
The Who, Beatles, Beach Boys, Stones... but even the underrated Bee
Gees (Odessa), Hollies (Butterfly) and The Monkees (The Birds, the Bees
and the Monkees)!
How come it's now a triple CD? Is it like the slightly annoying Kinks:
Village Green... triple? Where the whole original album and all the
really interesting bonus stuff easily could fit on just one CD?
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Posted: June 11 2006 at 10:56 |
I have the original round LP cover (as well as the record). It is definitely one weird little ditty on side two and just goes to show that record companies were a lot more bold back then as to what they would allow artists to put on an album. Sadly, those days are long gone.
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Posted: June 11 2006 at 17:34 |
Rocktopus wrote:
I have the ordinary, boring looking CD version. But I love the music. Especially the second part on the album.
During 67-69 almost all mainstream pop greats had one or two pretty
bizzare classic out. The well known/respected: Pretty Things, Kinks,
The Who, Beatles, Beach Boys, Stones... but even the underrated Bee
Gees (Odessa), Hollies (Butterfly) and The Monkees (The Birds, the Bees
and the Monkees)!
How come it's now a triple CD? Is it like the slightly annoying Kinks:
Village Green... triple? Where the whole original album and all the
really interesting bonus stuff easily could fit on just one CD?
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It's a triple because it has the whole album in mono on one CD, stereo on another CD and there's a documentary on the third one. Not sure if the mono version is any different (some of the Beatles mono albums had different mixes to the stereo versions) but it does come in a very nice round tin.
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Rocktopus
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Posted: June 12 2006 at 03:13 |
Sounds almost interesting enough to by, if its still priced as one CD.
By the way Chopper. Did you see my prog related-related poll (here on page 2)? 'Ogden's Nut Gone Flake' has no votes, yet.
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Posted: June 12 2006 at 06:57 |
Chopper , how did you find Classy Crock's latest issue?
There was more to read than that awful friggin package was indicating . Lucky I found an open copy or else I was NOT buying it
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Posted: June 12 2006 at 07:09 |
Great record, great cover, really inventive pop rock with great songs especially 'Tin Soldier'an alltime favourite!
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Tadpoles keep screaming in my ear "Hey there! Rotter's Club! Explain the meaning of this song and share it"
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Posted: June 12 2006 at 07:51 |
Tin Soldier? Great song, but it's not on Ogden's, well not on my copy anyway.
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Posted: June 12 2006 at 10:41 |
Noticed that the original Castle Communication Records CD reissue had a deeper tin can than the new(re-re-re-issue )
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Posted: June 12 2006 at 11:39 |
chopper wrote:
Tin Soldier? Great song, but it's not on Ogden's, well not on my copy anyway. |
you are right it was a single and not part of the original release, I have it as a bonus track on my CD release.
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Tadpoles keep screaming in my ear "Hey there! Rotter's Club! Explain the meaning of this song and share it"
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Posted: June 12 2006 at 13:29 |
Great album- one of the best to come out of the late 60s as all of the songs are first class and it's a very well packaged and (unusually for Immediate) produced. Can't say I want to fork out for a new version as there's nothing in the way of 'new' material- I have a great 2cd set called 'The Darlings Of Whipping Wharf Launderette' that features all of their studio Immediate output and set the benchmark for the band after years of shoddy, poor sounding compilations.
Classic Rock didn't do much for me this month I'm afraid- FAR too much about Bon Jovi for my liking- now while I can tolerate hair metal to an extent and it gets the odd play, I don't want to have 10 page features on it like Classic Rock doll out to such bands every month. Really, it's the lifestyles and backbiting that provide fodder- there's not much substance to the music in all honesty.
Uriah Heep did a rather curious, straight cover version of 'Tin Soldier' in the 1980s- alongside 'My Joanna Needs Tuning' it's probably the strangest thing in their catalogue...
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Posted: June 12 2006 at 17:02 |
How did Classic Rock magazine get into this thread?
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Posted: June 13 2006 at 03:53 |
chopper wrote:
How did Classic Rock magazine get into this thread? |
There is a 5 page article on this album
I often find that subjects discussed in mags (not just Classy Crock) come up for discussion in Forum threads (not just PA)
Just a coincidence?
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Posted: June 13 2006 at 07:46 |
^ Oh I see!
Yes, it was a coincidence. I haven't read Classic Rock, I actually saw it advertised in Uncut.
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Posted: June 13 2006 at 18:08 |
chopper wrote:
Rocktopus wrote:
I have the ordinary, boring looking CD version. But I love the music. Especially the second part on the album. During 67-69 almost all mainstream pop greats had one or two pretty bizzare classic out. The well known/respected: Pretty Things, Kinks, The Who, Beatles, Beach Boys, Stones... but even the underrated Bee Gees (Odessa), Hollies (Butterfly) and The Monkees (The Birds, the Bees and the Monkees)! How come it's now a triple CD? Is it like the slightly annoying Kinks: Village Green... triple? Where the whole original album and all the really interesting bonus stuff easily could fit on just one CD?
| It's a triple because it has the whole album in mono on one CD, stereo on another CD and there's a documentary on the third one. Not sure if the mono version is any different (some of the Beatles mono albums had different mixes to the stereo versions) but it does come in a very nice round tin. | The stereo mix is shabby, to say the least - the MONO is much clearer and less distracting, and rumour has it that the original MONO is the best press of all. Apparently, for some reason, later MONO vinyl pressings lacked clarity and dynamic compared to the very first - rather like the Beatles "Rubber Soul, whose first MONO press is known as the "Loud Cut", except that the Beatles second press was re-engineered because the first was too loud for most record players of the time. You can spot a MONO first press of ONG, as it has the words "For best results play LOUD" around the outside edge of the label. It's a fantastic album - high time we had a thread on it, if you'll pardon the pun... The fun we used to have trying to recite it all: "Are you all seaty two-square comflybold on your botties? Then I'll begin!" "Little Jack Horner left his horn stuffed under the settee and brought out his Mellotrode - and freaked 'em all out! Cor! What a mind-blast!"
Edited by Certif1ed - June 13 2006 at 18:11
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Posted: June 14 2006 at 07:43 |
I'd just noticed that Mellotron reference yesterday - fantastic.
I must admit the stereo mix has some of the most bizarre use of panning I've heard, usually with the drums being right to one side. I'll have to try the mono one.
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