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    Van Der Graaf Generator, on the whole, is going very slowly with me. At first I didn't like it at all, and didn't think I ever would. Now I see something there, but I usually end up turning it off in favor of something else.
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Originally posted by bhikkhu bhikkhu wrote:

    Van Der Graaf Generator, on the whole, is going very slowly with me. At first I didn't like it at all, and didn't think I ever would. Now I see something there, but I usually end up turning it off in favor of something else.


what are you listening to specifically....have you tried H to He...   personally I think it's their best album.
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Points: 5109 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 20 2006 at 19:43
Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

Originally posted by bhikkhu bhikkhu wrote:

    Van Der Graaf Generator, on the
whole, is going very slowly with me. At first I didn't like it at all,
and didn't think I ever would. Now I see something there, but I usually
end up turning it off in favor of something else.


what are you listening to specifically....have you tried H to He...   personally I think it's their best album.

    
The only ones I could find were "The Least We Can Do Is Wave to Each Other," "Godbluff," and "Still Life."
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Points: 89372 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 20 2006 at 19:45
Good point well made Micky.  It depends heavily on the album he's listening too.

Still Life is my favourite.  I love H to He as well though.  I love all their albums (except the 3.5 or 4 star The Quiet Zone/The Pleasure Dome, which isn't as great).

Edit: "The least we can do is wave to each other" is the most accessible of their albums, so keep listening to that one, is my suggestion.  Godbluff and Still Life are perhaps (apart from Pawn Hearts) the two most difficult to get into for beginners.


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Lighthousekeepers is cool, but Scorched Earth from Godbluff is NUTS.. I've never heard such a complicated, well-played song unfold so easily on the ears. Godbluff's my favourite VDGG mostly for this reason.

yes, they had to click on me too, but I approached them in phases. I hated them the first three times I listened but on the fourth my jaw dropped. it's significant (to me) because I had no problem getting into bands like Magma, Gentle Giant or Henry Cow..
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Originally posted by laplace laplace wrote:

Lighthousekeepers is cool, but Scorched Earth from Godbluff is NUTS.. I've never heard such a complicated, well-played song unfold so easily on the ears. Godbluff's my favourite VDGG mostly for this reason.yes, they had to click on me too, but I approached them in phases. I hated them the first three times I listened but on the fourth my jaw dropped. it's significant (to me) because I had no problem getting into bands like Magma, Gentle Giant or Henry Cow..

    
     This is exactly why I want to keep trying. I also had no problem with Magma, and Gentle Giant (haven't heard Henry Cow yet). Micky also has a pretty good idea of what I like. So, I'll focus on "The Least We Can Do..." and look for a copy of "H to the He."
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Originally posted by laplace laplace wrote:

Lighthousekeepers is cool, but Scorched Earth from Godbluff is NUTS.. I've never heard such a complicated, well-played song unfold so easily on the ears. Godbluff's my favourite VDGG mostly for this reason.

yes, they had to click on me too, but I approached them in phases. I hated them the first three times I listened but on the fourth my jaw dropped. it's significant (to me) because I had no problem getting into bands like Magma, Gentle Giant or Henry Cow..


Clap  I would rate (for what it's worth of course hahah) Godbluff as their 2nd best album and I agree, Scorched Earth is awesome... my favorite off of that album.
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Took one listen to know I would love it eventually. And ca. ten to become my favorite progepic of all.  
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Originally posted by glass house glass house wrote:

Originally posted by Blacksword Blacksword wrote:

Not at all. 'APOLK' is a slow grower for many people. I love 'Lemmings' and 'Man ERG' and wasn't able to sit through all of the third track, until about a year after buying the album.

 

A slow grower for you is a year, it took me years !! [IMG]height=17 alt=Tongue src="http://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley17.gif" width=17 align=absMiddle>


'Godbluff' took a little longer, maybe two years. For a long time 'Sleepwalkers' was the only track I could listen to from that album.
    
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I had no real problem with any song from pawn hearts my favorite VDGG album, the hardest album for me was Godbluff it took me some time to love that one.
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fpor Lighthouse Keeper, you should try out the Godbluff  DVD as they do for the Belgian TV the full plague track (which they had to rehearse and Hammill is seen reading the lyrics from the album's lyrics sheet on his electric piano.
 
This was one of those VdGG "clicks " for me.
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I listeend once to to Vital in my very early Prog days and didn't get it at all.

Then I didn't hear them for maybe five years, and after that never had a single problem with them again - loved them from beginning to end.
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I dont get them at all.
There were a number of bands from the early-70s that my immature musical tastes could not appreciate:VDGG,Jethro Tull,Gentle Giant and the post 72 KC albums. This has afflicted me to the point that I have been trying to "re-discover" them for the last couple of years,still without success.
I have a problem with Hammill's voice which is surprising seeing as I am a big fan of Fish.

Maybe I havent had enough time to really scratch the surface and there is always "new" music flying around here...


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Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

fpor Lighthouse Keeper, you should try out the Godbluff  DVD as they do for the Belgian TV the full plague track (which they had to rehearse and Hammill is seen reading the lyrics from the album's lyrics sheet on his electric piano.
 
This was one of those VdGG "clicks " for me.

Great footage of that song; I especially love the "Maelstrom" part, where they go really wild.


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There never were any difficulties for me to apprehend them. It took about three or four listenings to the cassette compilation (done by someone) to understand that I like their music. It seems that Hammill's voice fits exactly my taste, and it did more than a half of a work (of apprehension) in the beginning.
After that I began to buy the albums, one by one, and there also never were any problems.
Just "A Plague of Lighthouse Keepers" has caught me from the first notes. "Lemmings" were more difficult.
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Points: 5109 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 21 2006 at 11:51
       I listened to "The Least We Can Do" again last night, and it was definitely growing on me. Then, with some help from a friend, I was able to find a copy of "H to the He." I have listened to it twice now, and ...

click, click, click, click, click, click

It's really good! I am actually listening to "Godbluff" right now, and that's working too. Strange how that happens. I was almost at the point where I thought VDGG would forever be on my "just don't get it" list." I will, however, take some time to absorb it all, before discussing the merits of the music.

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You will not be disappointed with Still Life, too. And, hopefully, with World Record.

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Bhikku, if you can, try and follow the lyrics, as they are an important part of what VdGG are about.

If you don't have the lyrics to hand, then visit Peter Hammill's website: www.sofasound.com

It does seem odd though that H to He clicks for you more than The least we can do...

Keep it up and you'll be loving them as much as me!
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Points: 5109 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 21 2006 at 15:07
Originally posted by Geck0 Geck0 wrote:

Bhikku, if you can, try and follow the lyrics, as they are an important part of what VdGG are about.If you don't have the lyrics to hand, then visit Peter Hammill's website: www.sofasound.comIt does seem odd though that H to He clicks for you more than The least we can do...Keep it up and you'll be loving them as much as me!

    
      Thanks. I actually just got back from the music store, where I found the remastered edition of "H to He." I at least now have the lyrics for that. The other albums I have were downloads, so the website will help. Although, I was picking up on them well enough to get a good idea. I was a bit surprised as well, becuase I do see how "The Least We Can Do" would be more accessible. For some reason, "Killer" just hit me. I was enjoying the rest, and then "Pioneers Over C" just blew me away.
    

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