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Alucard
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Topic: Band with the most literary references? Posted: December 28 2004 at 06:27 |
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The name Gentle Giant is a reference to the french writer François Rabelais and his book Gargantua and Pantagruel a very funny story about a family of giants mostly interested in sex and food. Beside of the name of the group you got the songs Pantagruels nativity on ATT and the advents of Panurge on Oct. which are directly linked to the story. Memories of old days on MP is a reference to a George Orwell novel. Edited by Alucard |
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Syzygy
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Posted: December 24 2004 at 09:13 | |
I think the objection had to do with the band not asking for his permission first, and also Gallico wasn't into rock music. |
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I've got my doubts about how much to contribute to the already rich among us...' Robert Wyatt, Gloria Gloom |
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maani
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Posted: December 23 2004 at 18:04 | |
As Peter is fond of noting, Tolkien's works are almost without question the single greatest source (even more than Shakespeare, and possibly even more than the Bible) not only of prog references in lyrics, but of prog group names. I have counted at least 20 prog (or quasi-prog) groups with names from Tolkien works. Peace. |
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James Lee
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Posted: December 23 2004 at 17:52 | |
Why would Gallico object? I daresay more people have come to his work through Camel than vice versa...maybe they should have done the soundtrack for "The Poseidon Adventure" as well.
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BebieM
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Posted: December 23 2004 at 16:56 | |
Yup, it is awesome, just like all the early camel stuff |
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Blacksword
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Posted: December 23 2004 at 16:22 | |
Yeah, I knew that. I was just testing you |
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Syzygy
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Posted: December 23 2004 at 15:28 | |
By Paul Gallico, but they had to take his name off the album sleeve after Gallico objected. I don't know if this is still the case - anybody got a recent CD copy? Been listening to my battered old copy this afternoon, I'd forgotten how good it is. |
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'Like so many of you
I've got my doubts about how much to contribute to the already rich among us...' Robert Wyatt, Gloria Gloom |
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Metropolis
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Posted: December 23 2004 at 08:12 | |
They also wrote an album call Nightfall in Middle Earth |
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BebieM
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Posted: December 23 2004 at 02:53 | |
I think those 3 haven't been said already: Camel: Nimrodel (about Gandalf of LotR) Camel: Snow goose (hmm, it's based on a book, im sure, but i forgot which one ) also, not prog at all (just comes to my mind, lol): The Herd - From The underworld (based on mythology, this story about orpheus in the underworld ....) |
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maani
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Posted: December 23 2004 at 01:00 | |
I must agree with Rob, Cert and Ivan: Genesis and Marillion (i.e., primarily Gabriel and Fish) probably use more literary references than any other prog writers. Most are overt, but some are extremely subtle (especially with Fish). Gentle Giant also used myriad literary references, including (admittedly indirectly) the name of the band. Peace. |
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Ivan_Melgar_M
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Posted: December 23 2004 at 00:27 | |
Genesis: White Mountain: Based on White Fang by Jack London Supper's Ready: Book of Revelations Squonk: "All the Kings horses and all the King's men could never put a smile on his face" Squonk in reference to a famous Nursery Rhyme. Supper's Ready: "The Pied Piper takes his children underground" Fountain of Salmacis: Based in Greek Mythology, the legend of Hermafroditus. The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway: The whole album has a clear inspiration in The Trial by Franz Kafka. Iván Edited by ivan_2068 |
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frenchie
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Posted: December 22 2004 at 21:53 | |
blind guardian wrote a song called lord of the rings
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Syzygy
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Posted: December 22 2004 at 20:15 | |
Genesis also quote T.S. Eliot more or less verbatim on 'Cinema Show', borrowing one of the passages Ezra Pound edited out of 'The Waste Land'. Peter Blegvad, lyricist and sometime singer/guitarist with Henry Cow, Slapp Happy and some solo work, crams in all kinds of arcane references and generally wears his erudition lightly. Ezra Pound, Rimbaud, Basho and Wittgenstein all feature in his work, but not in the same song.
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'Like so many of you
I've got my doubts about how much to contribute to the already rich among us...' Robert Wyatt, Gloria Gloom |
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Reed Lover
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Posted: December 22 2004 at 20:03 | |
http://www.2112.net/powerwindows/transcripts/fosternicedrive .htm Richard S Foster, dear boy! |
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Reed Lover
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Posted: December 22 2004 at 20:03 | |
Rush have many many literary references. A whole web page full! http://www.2112.net/powerwindows/RushInspirations.htm
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Rob The Good
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Posted: December 22 2004 at 19:53 | |
I don't know if they have the most references, but Genesis certainly have quite a few if one looks hard enough: I think "Supper's Ready" refers to the "New Jerusalem" which is a reference to Romantic poetry of the early 19th century..I think "Jerusalem" was a poem by Blake (also set to music, and covered by ELP). "The Lamb...." has a song called "The Lamia" which is a reference to a Greek mythological character who ate her children, and developed a taste for kiddies...in fact, Greek mothers used to use this to keep their kids in line! There are many more references obviously, but I haven't really delved deep enough into the subject. There would certainly be some biblical stuff. Sorry people! I'm a literature fiend! :)
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Posted: December 22 2004 at 15:55 | |
Bo Hansonns' Music Inspired by Lord of the Rings
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James Lee
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Posted: December 22 2004 at 15:34 | |
That's a good point...I think we can leave out the Bible, just because so many of the quotes and concepts have become deeply entrenched in language over the centuries. One could make the same case for Shakespeare...there's endless songs about Romeo and Juliet which don't quite inspire a discussion of the Bard. |
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Certif1ed
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Posted: December 22 2004 at 13:33 | |
"Fugazi" mixes up Coleridge and Shakespeare - and you find all sorts of literary references in much of Fish's work with or without Marillion. |
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tuxon
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Posted: December 22 2004 at 08:39 | |
I think Shadow Hammer covered/interpreted Tolkiens entire works. .
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