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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 23 2004 at 22:13

Danbo:

Since you cheated by using the Internet, you only get half-credit.

Still, good job!

Peace.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 24 2004 at 10:46

Half is better then none.

An investigator uses the tools at hand, right?

So, How did you find these sites/bands/artists?



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 31 2004 at 05:10
Originally posted by Peter Rideout Peter Rideout wrote:

Originally posted by Jim Garten Jim Garten wrote:

Originally posted by Peter Rideout Peter Rideout wrote:

almost any lyric can be "made to fit" a Tolkien analysis (show me a lyric & I'll link it to LOTR!)
OK, Peter - try this on for size...... "my pink half of the drainpipe, seperates me from you....." Bonzo Dog Band 1968


Geek Jim, the answer is laughably obvious: The lyrics you quote are an oblique reference to the dwarves being put into barrels ("drainpipes") to escape the wood elves in The Hobbit. (The barrels separate the dwarves from the elves.) There is also a parallel -- but less obvious -- reference to Pippin pouring pints down his throat ("pink drainpipe") at the Prancing Pony, until his subsequent tipsy indisgressions threaten to separate him from the fuming Frodo.


Stern SmileTo fully comprehend the import of these arcane but beautiful words, however, you must first ingest the same perilously near-lethal cocktail of consciousness-expanding hallucinogens that the lyricist  did before he penned such an immortal line.


(I suggest that you have "911" ready on the auto-dial before embarking upon your inner quest for enlightenment, Grasshopper....) Dead


Good luck!


What else you got? LOL



RIGHT!!

Try this on for size.......PAL!

"that was the sound of Roger's wah-wah rabbits eating endives - very reasonable at this time of year...."

The Bonzo's again - 1968 "shirts"

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 31 2004 at 09:02

[/QUOTE]

RIGHT!!

Try this on for size.......PAL!

"that was the sound of Roger's wah-wah rabbits eating endives - very reasonable at this time of year...."

The Bonzo's again - 1968 "shirts"[/QUOTE]

Shocked Goodness gracious me, James, I really don't see why you need my help with this one. As anyone possessed of a modicum of grey matter (and the right drugs) who has given TLOTR even a cursory read should be able to tell, this cleverly-penned excerpt contains some non-linear references to Gollum.

Geek It's a well known fact (at least among mental patients, and guitarists named Dale) that before Tolkien settled upon the names Smeagol/Gollum for his  minor villain, he toyed with the notion of naming his skulking, slimey character Roger, after a former publisher that he had had a less-than-lucrative professional relationship with. Furthermore, the name Smeagol, when rendered in Old Entish, is spoken as "Raa-jerr."

There is also a more obvious reference to the way that Gollum is moved to tears of frustration ("Wah-wah") when he sees the stolid Samwise cooking the "coneys," or rabbits, that Smeagol has procured for his peckish "Master" on the way to Mordor.

Next, there is a clever reference both to the way that Gollum dives into pools to catch fish ("endives"), and to the way that he does a header, or dives into Mount Doom at the end of the book -- he "end dives," as it were.

The final part is simply the Bonzos communicating to me through space and time that my explanation is very reasonable.

I hope that you will get more out of the song now. Remember, all rock lyrics are derived from Tolkien!

"And, has thou slain the Jabberwock?
Come to my arms, my beamish boy!
O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!'
He chortled in his joy.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 31 2004 at 10:09
......... sound of despairing Englishman banging head repeatedly on desk..........


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 31 2004 at 16:01

It's about time we stumped mr. Peter Rideout. Here's a lyric that obviously has no relation whatsoever to LOTR

"He took a dog-doo snow cone and stuffed it in my right eye
He took a dog-doo snow cone and stuffed it in my other eye
And the husky wee-wee
I mean the doggie wee-wee
Has blinded me
And I can't see
Temporarily"

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 31 2004 at 16:08

Try this too, Peter;

"I poked and stroked 'til my wrist got numb.

But I never did hear no Dinah Moe Humm."

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 31 2004 at 18:46

LOL ROFLMFAO

Excellent choice, danbo

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 01 2004 at 02:25
And of course....

Oh God Oh God I'm so fantastic
Thanks to Freddie I'm a sexual spastic

OK - Peter - do your stuff!!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 01 2004 at 22:21
If i may jump in at this point and put on my tangentional hat.That is obviously a reference to the sad deluded world of Mrs Havasham from" Great Expectations"...PIP PIP
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 03 2004 at 18:16

I don't think peter can find an explanation for these lyrics in LOTR. Last time I checked, there was no dynah mo humming over the husky wee wee

(It's not as sick as it sounds)

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 03 2004 at 23:18
Originally posted by Glass-Prison Glass-Prison wrote:

I don't think peter can find an explanation for these lyrics in LOTR. Last time I checked, there was no dynah mo humming over the husky wee wee

(It's not as sick as it sounds)

Don't be so sure , oh "Crystal Dungeon." My research (cough cough) continues....Wink



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"And, has thou slain the Jabberwock?
Come to my arms, my beamish boy!
O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!'
He chortled in his joy.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 05 2004 at 02:13

Let me give Peter an assist here, at least with one of them:

"I poked and stroked til my wrist got numb, but I never did hear no Dinah Moe Humm"

This one is so obvious that I'm shocked - shocked! - that neither danbo nor Peter got it.

This refers to Frodo and Sam crossing the river after Frodo puts on the ring to get away from Boromir.  Sam "poked and stroked" the oars in the water.  As is obvious, "Dinah Moe Humm" is a wordplay on "dynamo hum."  We all know that a dynamo is a motor most often associated with hydroelectric (i.e., water) power.  The LOTR reference would be that Sam and Frodo were too far from the waterfall at the end of the river to hear the "dynamo hum."

Geez, guys.  Give us a hard one... 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 05 2004 at 03:06
Originally posted by maani maani wrote:

Geez, guys.  Give us a hard one... 



OO-ER missus!! Sounds a bit rude, eh? eh? eh?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 05 2004 at 03:50
STOP IT JIM!!..STOP IT NOW....YOU NAUGHTY MAN!!!!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 05 2004 at 06:28

Move the topic!

This sounds like...

 

HUMOUR!

Here's another one, what's the LOTR reference here?:

I don't wanna kill my china pig
No I don't
Uh man's gotta live
Uh man's gotta eat
Uh man's gotta have shoes t' walk out on the street
I don't wanna kill my china pig
Ell he was uh baby I want yuh t' see
I don't wanna kill my china pig
Well I used t' go t' school
With uh' little red box
'n I used to have m' pig go with me
We walked for blocks
I don't wanna kill my china pig

GOOD LUCK!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 07 2004 at 12:19
Originally posted by maani maani wrote:

Let me give Peter an assist here, at least with one of them:

"I poked and stroked til my wrist got numb, but I never did hear no Dinah Moe Humm"

This one is so obvious that I'm shocked - shocked! - that neither danbo nor Peter got it.

This refers to Frodo and Sam crossing the river after Frodo puts on the ring to get away from Boromir.  Sam "poked and stroked" the oars in the water.  As is obvious, "Dinah Moe Humm" is a wordplay on "dynamo hum."  We all know that a dynamo is a motor most often associated with hydroelectric (i.e., water) power.  The LOTR reference would be that Sam and Frodo were too far from the waterfall at the end of the river to hear the "dynamo hum."

Geez, guys.  Give us a hard one... 

I don't think there was hydroelectricity in the lord of the rings (or electricity for that matter)

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 07 2004 at 21:28

Glass-Prison:

True, but there was hydroelectric power when Tolkien wrote the books.  However, there is an alternative explanation for the line.  A dynamo is, ultimately, an engine.  And we know that Saruman had developed a "dynamo" system at Isengard to create the Uruk-Hai and their weapons.  Thus, the line refers to the fact that Frodo and Sam were too far from Isengard to hear the "dynamo" hum.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 08 2004 at 01:41

 My (upcoming) analysis of that section (from the unexpurgated edition of LOTR) is MUCH, MUCH naughtier than that!

Still, good one Maani!LOL 

(Got to suck up to "the boss," guys....)Wink

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 11 2004 at 22:58

^now I would love to hear that version

if it's too risque for the boards, then msg it to me.

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