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Leningrad 
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Posted: August 16 2006 at 23:17 |
Sure, we all know classical music can be very quiet and be the kind of music you hear in the back of a small cafe. But it can also be brutal, pummeling music that for sure spawned many different genres.
So, out there, can you guys name some of the louder pieces? Thing is, there's a few songs I remember really liking, but I don't remember anything about them, unfortunately.
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Posted: August 16 2006 at 23:44 |
I suggest Aaron Copeland's Fanfare for the Common Man, Appalachian Spring Suite and his Third Symphony. He is very dynamic here and the use of tympani drum is extensive. The recording I recommend is a Reference Recording catalogue number RR-93CD with Eiji Oue conducting the Minnesota Orchestra. It's stunningly beautiful.
Another one I highly recommend is another one with Eiji Oue conducting the Minnesota Orchestra and the artist in question is Stravinsky. The works include The Song of the Nightingale, The Firebird Suite, and The Rite of Spring. It's another Reference Recording and the performance as well as the sound is incredible. Catalogue number is: RR-70CD. This is one I think every fan of symphonic prog should own.
If you find you want a more complex musical structure, then try Mahler. His symphonies are amazing.
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Posted: August 16 2006 at 23:49 |
Oh, and thanks for bringing this topic up. I have been overly immersed in prog rock lately and now I'm listening to the above mentioned works. 
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Posted: August 16 2006 at 23:49 |
Just finished listening to The Firebird Suite. I'm amazed ELP haven't done a version yet. 
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Posted: August 17 2006 at 00:01 |
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In the Hall of the Mountain King is amazing, as well. That was one of the early ones I remember.
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Posted: August 17 2006 at 01:07 |
 Chameleon wrote:
In the Hall of the Mountain King is amazing, as well. That was one of the early ones I remember. |
Yes...........the version I have is Vernon Handley conducting the Ulster Orchestra. Ha, this is fun, into the CD drawer it goes. Been a while since I listened to this one. Had to blow the dust off of it. 
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Posted: August 17 2006 at 02:18 |
I think the "loudest noisiest" classical music i have heard is Tchaikovsky's "1812 (Festival) Overture" with real cannons - definitely clears the old cobwebs out!! 
 warning.....this record may harm your neighbours!!!
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Sacred 22
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Posted: August 17 2006 at 02:31 |
mystic fred wrote:
I think the "loudest noisiest" classical music i have heard is Tchaikovsky's "1812 (Festival) Overture" with real cannons - definitely clears the old cobwebs out!!
warning.....this record may harm your neighbours!!!
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Oh yes, we can't forget that one and I have a recording where the real cannons are used........it's great!!
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Posted: August 17 2006 at 03:49 |
This is a collection of modern and very dynamic music written by Latin American composers. Keri-Lynn Wilson, a young Canadian conductor leads the Simón Bolívar Symphony Orchestra of Venezuela. If you like a strong rhythmic passion in your music then you will enjoy this one. It a very lively work and a lot of fun to listen to.
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Posted: August 17 2006 at 05:33 |
Some of Schoenberg's music is god damn strange, and loud as well.
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Posted: August 17 2006 at 08:10 |
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Has to be one of those late 19th century or early 20th century symphonies for double orchestra and choir - Mahler?
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Posted: August 17 2006 at 09:04 |
Stravinsky's "Rite of Spring" without any doubt. I once witnessed a live performance of it at Rome's brand-new auditorium, and I remember telling my mother that really ROCKED! That's Proto-Prog-Metal in my book...  Another good candidate is Carl Orff's "O Fortuna" from the "Carmina Burana" - a big influence on the likes of Magma.
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Posted: August 17 2006 at 09:09 |
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"Pictures from an Exhibition" by Ravel features some strong and powerful moments.
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Posted: August 17 2006 at 09:15 |
BTW, this 4 Cds box is an absolute masterpiece, good interpretations, fantastic sound! (Brilliant records) 
Edited by oliverstoned - August 17 2006 at 09:15
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Posted: August 18 2006 at 02:47 |
oliverstoned wrote:
"Pictures from an Exhibition" by Ravel features some strong and powerful moments.
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Just to put the record straight: this is a Mussorgsky composition. Ravel orchestrated it.
To the question: well, it depends really what you call loud and
violent. Many of the pieces mentioned I would definitely not classify
as such.
Try Penderecki - Threnody for the victims of Hiroshima (not sure if that is the exact title - I'm quoting from my head now).
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Posted: August 18 2006 at 02:55 |
Pictures at an Exibition was a piano work written by Mussorgsky.
Rite of Spring is a crazy work, It is almost progressive!
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Posted: August 18 2006 at 03:26 |
Australian wrote:
Pictures at an Exibition was a piano work written by Mussorgsky.
Rite of Spring is a crazy work, It is almost progressive! |
Most classical music is very progressive. The dumbing down of music is a recent invention really, or I should say the extreme popularity of it is anyway. The world we live in is one of instant gratification. Who has time to sit though a 20 minute concerto or symphonic movement these days, much less get into it and appreciate it. it's sad really, but I don't want to get philosophical here. 
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Posted: August 18 2006 at 07:46 |
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Some of that Wagner stuff is pretty violent >> very Teutonic music. Most of the Nazis if the Third Reich listened to it in awe.
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let's just stay above the moral melee
prefer the sink to the gutter
keep our sand-castle virtues
content to be a doer
as well as a thinker,
prefer lifting our pen
rather than un-sheath our sword
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Eetu Pellonpaa
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Posted: August 18 2006 at 08:24 |
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Sergey Prokofief has done some quite strong tunes, like the soundtrack for Alexander Nevsky, Love for Three Oranges and the Scythian Suite.
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