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Open-Mind 
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 Topic: Bjork
Posted: September 07 2006 at 13:25 |
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One of the most unique artists that is producing music nowadays, which combines in her music a wide texture of musical genres: from Jazz to Techno to Classical Music. Her voice and the extraordinary singing style is a trademark of Bjork's career. But even when we look further than the known artists that Bjork have worked with, if it's in the music, the videos or the plastic art, she still keeps a warm space for young artists to express themselves within her music. And also she maintains her ability to stay updated, to surprise, and to excite in her music.
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Bjork's discography:
http://www.rollingstone.com/artists/bjork/discography
Bjork's picture:
http://www.jthreadgill.com/pinstripe/bigimages/bjork.jpg
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Open-Mind
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Posted: September 07 2006 at 15:06 |
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I just wanted to ask you all to vote and, in addition, to note where do you want to see Bjork - Prog Related section or Art Rock section (If you voted 'Yes')
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"I'm on a roll, I'm on a roll this time, I feel my luck could change.. "
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Raff
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Posted: September 07 2006 at 15:11 |
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I'm not very familiar with Bjork's output, but from what I know I think she deserves to be included, as she is a progressive artist in the true sense of the word.
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Posted: September 07 2006 at 15:13 |
yep, I like her, I think she would deserve. (then again, what do we do then with Laurie Anderson?   )
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Sean Trane
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Posted: September 07 2006 at 15:31 |
Not really sure she belongs here. She's certainly experimental , but for me her first albums were trip hop. Loved Debut 
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let's just stay above the moral melee
prefer the sink to the gutter
keep our sand-castle virtues
content to be a doer
as well as a thinker,
prefer lifting our pen
rather than un-sheath our sword
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Bryan
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Posted: September 07 2006 at 16:17 |
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Some of her work is really interesting and experimental, but prog??
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Zac M
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Posted: September 07 2006 at 16:21 |
 Bryan wrote:
Some of her work is really interesting and experimental, but prog??
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Exactly
I would not include her, just because you are experimental doesn't mean you are a Prog artist.
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"Art is not imitation, nor is it something manufactured according to the wishes of instinct or good taste. It is a process of expression."
-Merleau-Ponty
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WaywardSon
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Posted: September 07 2006 at 16:23 |
Oh no, I balk at the thought of Bjork!
Definitely Bowie before Bjork...
Have there been any suggestions for Tori Amos?
Edited by WaywardSon - September 07 2006 at 16:27
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Syzygy
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Posted: September 07 2006 at 16:26 |
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Not so sure about her earlier material (much as I like it) but Vespertine and Medulla both deserve inclusion as prog related at the very least. They feature RIO artists like Robert Wyatt and Zeena Parkins and are as adventurous and experimental and, yes, progressive as Radiohead's Kid A and Amnesiac or anything by Kate Bush.
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'Like so many of you
I've got my doubts about how much to contribute
to the already rich among us...'
Robert Wyatt, Gloria Gloom
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Raff
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Posted: September 07 2006 at 16:27 |
WaywardSon wrote:
Oh no, I balk at the thought of Bjork! src="http://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif">
Definitely Bowie before Bjork...
Have there been any suggestions for Tori Amos? |
I quite like Tori Amos, and I have a few of her records as well.. However, I've never really thought about whether she's progressive or not. I suppose she is in a way, at least Prog-Related.
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Posted: September 07 2006 at 16:34 |
I haven´t heard that much Tori Amos, but what I have heard has been quite impressive. (A little bit like Kate Bush in some parts)
I really love the song "Crucify" The video is great!
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Posted: September 07 2006 at 21:33 |
I always believed there's a difference between progressive and Progressive Rock:
1.- progressive: Any artist that goes beyond their time and/or leaves the boundaries of the common mainstream beyond, it's an adjective and qualifies the approach of the artist towards music. I believe Bjork MAY fit in this descriptoion and probably does.
2.- Progressive Rock: The genre that is our main reason to be here and hard to describe, Bjork is mainly an experimental mainstream artist, better than most wecan listen anywhere but at the end mainstream.
She's weird and has some experimental material but IMO that's not enough to be Prog as in Progressive Rock.
Iván
Edited by Ivan_Melgar_M - September 07 2006 at 22:54
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Cheesecakemouse
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Posted: September 07 2006 at 22:18 |
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The trouble is we include Bjork we'd have to include Yoko Ono and her rubbish so I voted no.
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Posted: September 07 2006 at 22:57 |
Cheesecakemouse wrote:
The trouble is we include Bjork we'd have to include Yoko Ono and her rubbish so I voted no. |
Agree with you and Homer Simpson:
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Optometrist: ...And Yoko Ono.
Homer: Eew, she ruined the Plastic Ono Band!
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philippe
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Posted: September 09 2006 at 08:57 |
in which subgenre? RIO/avant prog or krautrock?
I think it's time to re-situate the debate about eventual additions.
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Rocktopus
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Posted: September 09 2006 at 09:11 |
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Agreeing with Zyzygy here:
Medulla is certainly a lot more experimental and progressive than most stuff included here in the archives. Her three first albums are quirky mainstream pop (just like most Kate Bush albums). But Björk left the mainstream from Vespertine (or Maybe Selmasongs) and on. She more than qualifies as prog-related.
Edited by Rocktopus - September 09 2006 at 09:14
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: September 09 2006 at 09:17 |
Another candidate for "Progressive Pop".  Although she also made some Avant-Gard albums ... pretty much like Tori Amos, for that Matter.
Edited by MikeEnRegalia - September 09 2006 at 09:18
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Rocktopus
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Posted: September 09 2006 at 09:26 |
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If you actually listen to Tori Amos and Björk's last couple of albums, there is really no point comparing the two at all. And when it comes to experimenting, Björk is lightyears ahead. They are both female artists, that's about it.
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Ivan_Melgar_M
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Posted: September 09 2006 at 11:01 |
Well, Allmusivc, the most general and wide musical site describes a ot of genres and sounds to describe Bjork:
None of them Prog, and we're talking about a site that considers Journey Prog
Iván
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Rocktopus
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Posted: September 10 2006 at 06:24 |
Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:
None of them Prog, and we're talking about a site that considers Journey Prog
Iván |
As with Beatles, Deep Purple, Mahavisnu Orchestra, Return to Forever...
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