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    Posted: August 16 2016 at 14:58
Agree with David. Was going to edit it myself, but I see it's been edited. Plagiarism is a serious charge, and is a term that should be carefully used, but that involves passing off other people's writings, inventions or thoughts as one's own.   As said, he clearly mentions that he is quoting the musician from an interview. If he had not done so, then one might accuse it of plagiarism of the artist rather than the interviewer, but he did mention it. Where it did fall short by the terms of my formal work was properly citing the source and using quotation marks, but that seems to have been fixed. In some cases one can't quote any portions of an article by law without permission, but commonly fair dealing/ fair use policies permit quotations in such cases (in reviews, satires, academic papers, various non-commercial applications) -- that said, proper citation and quotation, as said, is good.

Generally a PM to the reviewer is considered the nicest way to address such problems. I'm positive no malice was intended by the reviewer, and the reviewer is, in my experience, a very nice person.
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Wouldn't call this plagiarism by any means. He clearly mentions that it is a bit from an interview. He is basically just relegating what the band intended with the music. Sure he could've said where he read the interview but...come on. If I were you I would've written him a mail and asked him to edit the review so as readers can see where the interview is from. It's not like he plagiarised your words.
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Resolved. Thanks to everyone involved.

Edited by batmura - August 16 2016 at 15:38
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote octopus-4 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 12 2015 at 08:59
I have also noticed that review. It's his first attempt to a review after a number of ratings. He started with a bunch of 4 and 5 stars then went to 1 and 2. The review doesn't say much other than "I don't understand this kind of music" and denotes also a lack of attention in listening. However, badly written doesn't mean improper or offensive, so even if its value is close to zero I think it can stay. If the admins think it deserves attention, I'd sugget to PM the reviewer and underline him the rules. Somebody did the same with me for my first review which was a 1-star to GTR. After that, I have rewritten it completely, following the rules. (my rating remained 1-star).
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We often come across these all-or-nothing people. Luckily so they tend to be as forgettable as sausages - y'know the ones that get left behind on the grill. 

PA, on the whole, is rather more like this:
 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote The Dark Elf Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 12 2015 at 08:38
Originally posted by Norbert Norbert wrote:

^ The guy can't even write. See his "review" about Magma's brilliant K.A.

Such accounts should be deleted, they just give a bad name to ProgArchives, and do harm to the credibility of this great site.

I looked at his dubious ratings list. I would suggest the reviewer lacks context, perspective and musical knowledge. Just perusing a few 1 or 2 star ratings leads me to believe the gentleman is clueless:
 
Miles Davis - A Kind of Blue
Miles Davis - Bitches Brew
Frank Zappa - Hot Rats
Chicago - The Chicago Transit Authority
Renaissance - Scheherazade and Other Stories
Herbie Hancock - Sextant
 
From a critical standpoint, I don't think even the most jaded professional critic would have the balls to rate these one or two stars without being laughed off their job at the newspaper or magazine. The musicianship alone warrants a positive rating.
 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Norbert Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 12 2015 at 08:21
^ The guy can't even write. See his "review" about Magma's brilliant K.A.

Such accounts should be deleted, they just give a bad name to ProgArchives, and do harm to the credibility of this great site.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote mbzr48 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 01 2015 at 15:11
This person ID justaguy

Do you really like Prog music? I never saw someone write so many negative reviews and give 1 star to so many top rated albums like yourself! "If you have nothing good to say, say nothing"
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Why can no one rate albums anymore......what's up?
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I just noticed there are reviews for all of Australian Instrumental guitarist Plini's releases on here and all are getting 2 star ratings from memowakeman which are qualified with this "Now don't pay attention to my rating, because as a reviewer I have my "own rules" which don't allow me to rate releases under 20 minutes with more than 2 stars, unless it is the EP or single of my life."

Isn't that a bit unfair to be tainting the reviews for all of these simply because they are EP's and classified so on Progarchives. I can see this is a very reputable reviewer but this seems unfair to me.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote GKR Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 14 2015 at 09:18
Oh, I see. Sorry about that. Moving on, then.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote octopus-4 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 14 2015 at 09:09
And he is surely real. There is also a thread about Haken started by him
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I saw that too, but then again people are allowed to rate albums according to their tastes. It is perfectly ok to think that *insert prog classic* is crap. 
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definitely an all or nothing type of guy!
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Le Orme and VDGG as well, but you got the drift LOL
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I'm not sure I understand what's wrongEmbarrassed

Is it that he's rated Thick as a brick with 1 star? I know a couple of people who's done the same y'knowWink 

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Checked some things around Fragmentropy, found 10 suspects. PM with details sent to historian.
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Personally I found his previous one to be more interesting, as this one got to be a tad too fragmented for me. It does live up to it's title in that context though.
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