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    Posted: February 09 2015 at 08:58
this review: http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=1261752 seems to be nothing more than a hatespeech of a disappointed guy who is angry, that the album doesn´t sound pleasant to him.

no single objective reason for the 1 star is given..


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Originally posted by Pastmaster Pastmaster wrote:

This doesn't look too much like a review to me, more like a rant by an angry fanboy Tongue

http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=1363709
This isn't even a review. It's a horribly written pun rant. I hope this is removed quickly.


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^ beware the Disillusioned Fan Ouch
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This doesn't look too much like a review to me, more like a rant by an angry fanboy Tongue

http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=1363709
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I'd like to chime in in favour of full disclosure.  I don't think full disclosure is a big deal actually.  I disclosed my friendship with the songwriter of Rainburn in my review, not so much because I am a friend but because I had heard the rough cuts of the songs long before and given feedback.  Rather than self declaring my impartiality, I'd leave it to the reader to decide if I am detached enough to be able to review.  Not wanting and resisting full disclosure is what arouses more suspicion imo.  Also I can understand an adolescent still in college not being aware of full disclosure and finding it a nuisance but I would certainly expect a producer or a record label owner to understand the implications.  I am not going to demand for it to be imposed but I certainly do think full disclosure adds more integrity to the review.

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Originally posted by The Bearded Bard The Bearded Bard wrote:

Originally posted by The Bearded Bard The Bearded Bard wrote:


Not much of a review, but I've taken note of the info it provided. Wink
Well?

We must have missed this one, sorry. I've taken care of it.
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Originally posted by The Bearded Bard The Bearded Bard wrote:


Not much of a review, but I've taken note of the info it provided. Wink
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Originally posted by Chris S Chris S wrote:

Originally posted by Kati Kati wrote:

Originally posted by Padraic Padraic wrote:

Originally posted by Kati Kati wrote:

These are all trivial things and should not really matter.



Well, if that's your opinion I'm afraid we will have to agree to disagree.
Ok if this is a big deal I suggest you guys msg the reviewer not the band, it's not their fault and yes we agree to disagree here. I am not going to inform the band of this, enough negativity and I wish them to be happy.
This band has had their share of negative reviews, some negative ones seem fair and others are blatant lies and I have to say that one is from one of your fellow brethren collab's. The band did not report it because they told me that this happens in the music industry and one should rather focus on the positive. I know (this is my point of view and thinking) they thought it would be pointless and make it worse as it obviously would bring a negative backlash to them. I can see why they would think such thing.
Collabs make mistakes too, they should know better compared to a person who is a new member and wrote one single review with a real profile also is allowed to be overlooked in this case. Confused

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Chris S Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 27 2015 at 22:40
Originally posted by Kati Kati wrote:

Originally posted by Padraic Padraic wrote:

Originally posted by Kati Kati wrote:

These are all trivial things and should not really matter.



Well, if that's your opinion I'm afraid we will have to agree to disagree.
Ok if this is a big deal I suggest you guys msg the reviewer not the band, it's not their fault and yes we agree to disagree here. I am not going to inform the band of this, enough negativity and I wish them to be happy.
This band has had their share of negative reviews, some negative ones seem fair and others are blatant lies and I have to say that one is from one of your fellow brethren collab's. The band did not report it because they told me that this happens in the music industry and one should rather focus on the positive. I know (this is my point of view and thinking) they thought it would be pointless and make it worse as it obviously would bring a negative backlash to them. I can see why they would think such thing.
Collabs make mistakes too, they should know better compared to a person who is a new member and wrote one single review with a real profile also is allowed to be overlooked in this case. Confused

Yes the thin veil of cyberspace threatens this very species......FB was down yesterday and it made headline news afround the world. Let bands or their brethren punt away. The bias expressed in review ratings is short lived as true time dictates the real rating....No matter, no fuss where intentions seem good. I do enjoy the PA guardians though, they also are to be admired for holding up values whether perceived overkill or not....Hug
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Originally posted by Padraic Padraic wrote:

Originally posted by Kati Kati wrote:

These are all trivial things and should not really matter.



Well, if that's your opinion I'm afraid we will have to agree to disagree.
Ok if this is a big deal I suggest you guys msg the reviewer not the band, it's not their fault and yes we agree to disagree here. I am not going to inform the band of this, enough negativity and I wish them to be happy.
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Collabs make mistakes too, they should know better compared to a person who is a new member and wrote one single review with a real profile also is allowed to be overlooked in this case. Confused
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Originally posted by Kati Kati wrote:

These are all trivial things and should not really matter.



Well, if that's your opinion I'm afraid we will have to agree to disagree.
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Nothing wrong with the review, he should have declared his conflict of interest in the opening lines of the review.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Kati Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 26 2015 at 15:09
Originally posted by Padraic Padraic wrote:

Originally posted by Kati Kati wrote:

Originally posted by Padraic Padraic wrote:

Originally posted by Kati Kati wrote:

I do understand what you are saying, however in this case the reviewer mentioned above has many bands on here, two of these are listed on P.A. 2014 Album releases, he only reviewed one of them because he likes the album very much.
 


I don't think anyone has a problem with him submitting a review; rather, I think lazland is asking for "full disclosure", a policy with which I am in favor.
ha! Patraic, he did on his PA profile, thus you want him to mention it inside the review too?

Yes, I do.  That information should be right up front.

That is positive for him too but wouldn't this be perceived as label advertisement?

Possibly, but at least everything is out in the open - I think that's less of a problem.
 
He did write a very detailed review, track by track.

The quality of the review is absolutely not the issue here.
 
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These are all trivial things and should not really matter. A fan joining PA in signing up on a real profile (regardless who they are) posting a detailed review of an album that he really likes on PA and leaving should be considered great for any related site.  

Meanwhile unfortunately there is concern that there are those who join with a fake profile, rate a few albums very low on purpose while scoring 5 stars to one single album.     

On an interesting note, the band referenced have not shared that review, they have however shared Tarcisio Moura’s  review (among many other PA Collab/Prog Reviewers reviews too) who did not give them 5 stars and instead gave them a really great 4 star review. His review shared by the band from PA alone got 60 fb likes on PA! Not many bands have as many fb likes on PA for a single review.

Here is Tarcisio’s review: http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=1301190

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Originally posted by Kati Kati wrote:

Originally posted by Padraic Padraic wrote:

Originally posted by Kati Kati wrote:

I do understand what you are saying, however in this case the reviewer mentioned above has many bands on here, two of these are listed on P.A. 2014 Album releases, he only reviewed one of them because he likes the album very much.
 


I don't think anyone has a problem with him submitting a review; rather, I think lazland is asking for "full disclosure", a policy with which I am in favor.
ha! Patraic, he did on his PA profile, thus you want him to mention it inside the review too?

Yes, I do.  That information should be right up front.

That is positive for him too but wouldn't this be perceived as label advertisement?

Possibly, but at least everything is out in the open - I think that's less of a problem.
 
He did write a very detailed review, track by track.

The quality of the review is absolutely not the issue here.
 
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Originally posted by Padraic Padraic wrote:

Originally posted by Kati Kati wrote:

I do understand what you are saying, however in this case the reviewer mentioned above has many bands on here, two of these are listed on P.A. 2014 Album releases, he only reviewed one of them because he likes the album very much.
 


I don't think anyone has a problem with him submitting a review; rather, I think lazland is asking for "full disclosure", a policy with which I am in favor.
ha! Patraic, he did on his PA profile, thus you want him to mention it inside the review too? That is positive for him too but wouldn't this be perceived as label advertisement?
 
He did write a very detailed review, track by track.
 
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Originally posted by Kati Kati wrote:

I do understand what you are saying, however in this case the reviewer mentioned above has many bands on here, two of these are listed on P.A. 2014 Album releases, he only reviewed one of them because he likes the album very much.
 


I don't think anyone has a problem with him submitting a review; rather, I think lazland is asking for "full disclosure", a policy with which I am in favor.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Kati Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 26 2015 at 13:41
Originally posted by lazland lazland wrote:

Originally posted by Kati Kati wrote:

Originally posted by ProgShine ProgShine wrote:

Guys. Not treally sure what to make of this, but I don't think this is really nice.

This: http://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=35522 is a profile from Nick Catonia, he's the main man on Melodic Revolution Records.

And he reviewed one of the albums published by his own label... (a 5 stars review): http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=1290271

How we deal with this kind of stuff?

Progshone, this has already been discussed on here.
Nick Catonia? has 30 plus bands who have produced many albums, many of them listed here on ProgArchives. He only ever reviewed one album and that is because, to him it is special. He did it openly. He has nothing to do with the band except that he sells a small percentage of their albums.
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Trouble is, Sonia, that there are more than a few who want people to register potential conflicts of interest. Note I said potential, not actual.

I am one of them. It is for that reason that every album I review where the album has been provided to me to review, I say so. If it doesn't say so, then the reader can be assured that I spent hard earned cash on it.

Nick is the man behind the label. I have no issue at all with him reviewing a mighty fine album. I do, though, think it might be better, certainly for the band, if he told the folks out there the interest he has, no matter how fleeting that might be.

A last word. Again, I have no issue whatsoever with bands looking to promote their works on this site. No issue whatsoever. It is, though, not an advertising site, but an archive
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I do understand what you are saying, however in this case the reviewer mentioned above has many bands on here, two of these are listed on P.A. 2014 Album releases, he only reviewed one of them because he likes the album very much.
 
This album on PA has 214 ratings, 36 reviews (of which 17 reviews are from PA Collaborators). This fact alone makes it one of the most popular and balanced albums compared with all 2014 releases. 
 
Some love the album others don't but this is what makes music interesting.
 
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Not much of a review, but I've taken note of the info it provided. Wink
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Originally posted by Kati Kati wrote:

Originally posted by ProgShine ProgShine wrote:

Guys. Not treally sure what to make of this, but I don't think this is really nice.

This: http://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=35522 is a profile from Nick Catonia, he's the main man on Melodic Revolution Records.

And he reviewed one of the albums published by his own label... (a 5 stars review): http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=1290271

How we deal with this kind of stuff?

Progshone, this has already been discussed on here.
Nick Catonia? has 30 plus bands who have produced many albums, many of them listed here on ProgArchives. He only ever reviewed one album and that is because, to him it is special. He did it openly. He has nothing to do with the band except that he sells a small percentage of their albums.
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Trouble is, Sonia, that there are more than a few who want people to register potential conflicts of interest. Note I said potential, not actual.

I am one of them. It is for that reason that every album I review where the album has been provided to me to review, I say so. If it doesn't say so, then the reader can be assured that I spent hard earned cash on it.

Nick is the man behind the label. I have no issue at all with him reviewing a mighty fine album. I do, though, think it might be better, certainly for the band, if he told the folks out there the interest he has, no matter how fleeting that might be.

A last word. Again, I have no issue whatsoever with bands looking to promote their works on this site. No issue whatsoever. It is, though, not an advertising site, but an archive


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