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    Posted: January 04 2005 at 09:27
If you've ever been to www.epitonic.com (a great site, one of my favourites-that's because they have FREE LEGAL MP3S!), you'll notice that you'll find quite a few bands filed under Math Rock . Basically,you'll discvover that there is a lot of experimental work, and, most importantly, some actualy sound like RIO or Prog Metal. IMO, you sahould check irt out. And don't listen to their walk-through- it'll get you into believing the bands are punky new wave numbers.

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Math Rock, yet another sub-genre then but I must admit it sounds more amusing than most.

Does that mean that there is a sub genre for every school subject?

Geography Rock - Asia or Kansas

History Rock - Forever Autumn or Strata

English Lit Rock - Saga

Pagan Studies Rock - Solstice

The list is endless I suspect.

 
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I think most of the silly sounding genres are offshoots of punk/indie/hardcore; math rock, post rock, shoegazer, slowcore, sadcore, queercore, spazcore, cowpunk, etc...!

Re math rock, I'll listen for a while but I'll often sort of drift off because a lot doesn't really go anywhere. Orthrelm are excellent though, if they come under math rock.
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There's a nice section on 20th Century Composers there - with some good samples!
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Points: 3484 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 04 2005 at 13:09
Math Rock. Is that like The Count on Sesame Street?
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Originally posted by gdub411 gdub411 wrote:

Math Rock. Is that like The Count on Sesame Street?

Vun strange time signature...Aahh....aahh...aahh (thunderclap & lightning)

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Originally posted by sigod sigod wrote:

History Rock - Forever Autumn or Strata


Shouldn't Strata be under Geography? Oh, hang on....History Rock: Strata.....very good!

How about P.E. Rock - Crystal Pallas ?

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Originally posted by Jim Garten Jim Garten wrote:

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How about P.E. Rock - Crystal Pallas ?
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Good Lord, you've missed the point by a mile. They said there that VOIVOD are the precusors of math rock, and we all know what they are. Honestly, Sigod, even though you made me laugh quite hard, pay atention, please

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Math rock is fundamentally pretentious, more so than any form of Prog, because bands basically pick a weird time sig for the sake of it and then build up a complex riff.  This is, to my mind, completely missing the point.

Sikth aren't bad, mind. 

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Originally posted by Jim Prog Wizard Jim Prog Wizard wrote:

Math rock is fundamentally pretentious, more so than any form of Prog, because bands basically pick a weird time sig for the sake of it and then build up a complex riff.  This is, to my mind, completely missing the point.

Sikth aren't bad, mind. 

Do you have a lisp?

for one minute I thought you were praising Styx!

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Ftyx ????????? 
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Originally posted by Captain Fudge Captain Fudge wrote:

Good Lord, you've missed the point by a mile. They said there that VOIVOD are the precusors of math rock, and we all know what they are. Honestly, Sigod, even though you made me laugh quite hard, pay atention, please

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First off, I wouldn't praise Styx if someone put a gun to my head.  Sikth are one of the more well-known math rock bands in Britain.  Stupid spelling, I know, but a pretty good band all the same.
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Hey, Styx is great, or can be! Grand Illusion, Equinox, Serpent Is Rising...I've got no problem with those albums at all...but this is not the point (how did Styx even get mentioned in a mathrock thread)...

Breadwinner is cool mathrock, very listenable...but there's a great instrumental trio out there that splits the difference between mathrock and progrock, they're basically progmetal but very technical, they're sorta all this stuff rolled up in a ball, no one else quite like them: Canvas Solaris. Check out their 'Spatial/Design' EP and 'Sublimation' album! Great stuff!

Along with Artcane and Voivod, I'd like to see C.S. added to the archives at some point...
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The drummer from Canvas Solaris sent me a copy of the album, and it's pretty mad. While I find with a lot of techy bands the slow parts aren't very interesting (certainly compared to the fast bits), Sublimation kept my interest throughout.

On the subject of techy metal/math rock, is anybody into...
Behold... the Arctopus
Drysysthmia (I don't know how to spell it!)
Spastic Ink (there must be some of you!)
Dillinger Escape Plan
or Orthrelm?
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Heck yeah, Behold...The Arctopus is very good, but I think they'll really be killer as times goes on, I think we're just hearing hints of what they can do.

I'm a huge Spastic Ink fan to, the 'Ink Compatible' album is amazing, a truly unique album tech-metal or otherwise...I know some people complained about McMaster's vocals, but I thought it was cool. Most albums in a similar vein (Sieges Even, Watchtower, Psychotic Waltz) have high-range singers, McMaster brought things down-to-earth a bit.
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Points: 4097 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 09 2005 at 10:02
Isn't he only on one of the tracks anyway? I thought it had a different singer on each one? Including Daniel Gildenlow, bizarrely!
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Points: 830 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 09 2005 at 11:17
I just think it's art rock with a dash of metal-ness. I think Faraquet are pretty cool.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhuxaD8NzaY
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Yeah, Faraquet are nice.
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