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mirco
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Topic: About musicians Posted: January 09 2005 at 16:37 |
Who are better, the best musicians of prog or the best musicians of rock-non prog? I am wondering if, for instance, Hendrix was more talented than Howe (or Hackett, or Lake, or the guy you think is the best guitarrist in prog). Same for the players of other instruments, of course.
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Reed Lover
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Posted: January 09 2005 at 16:45 |
mirco wrote:
Who are better, the best musicians of prog or the best musicians of rock-non prog? I am wondering if, for instance, Hendrix was more talented than Howe (or Hackett, or Lake, or the guy you think is the best guitarrist in prog). Same for the players of other instruments, of course. |
Hendrix was more talented than virtually any Prog musician you could care to mention.
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Richardw
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Posted: January 09 2005 at 16:54 |
I agree with Reed Lover. You can't really compare anyone to Hendrix. The guy was a total innovator in terms of technique. Nobody had the same influence on guitar playing than he did.
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Posted: January 09 2005 at 16:55 |
But was Hendrix more talented than Segovia?
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Reed Lover
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Posted: January 09 2005 at 17:00 |
I did say prog musician.Hendrix's playing was so imaginative- like Segovia his interpretation of other people's music was magical.
I have a brilliant CD of 2 Segovia recitals-wonderful stuff. Unfortunately you can here the audience coughing and fidgeting during one set. Plus ca change.......
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Posted: January 09 2005 at 17:01 |
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Reed Lover
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Posted: January 09 2005 at 17:02 |
Certif1ed wrote:
How about Steve Vai?
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Got no soul.
But go on enlighten us......
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Richardw
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Posted: January 09 2005 at 17:03 |
Segovia was undoubtedly a maestro of the guitar, but i'm not sure if he has influenced as many people as Hendrix. I don't know the answer to that. It's a difficult question to be sure. I've been playing the guitar for 20 years and i still can't believe the things Hendrix did. He was a one off as far as i am concerned.
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Posted: January 09 2005 at 17:04 |
Don't forget Django Rheinhart - but micro is restricting this debate to rock music.
In terms of technique alone, other guitarists may have equalled and surpassed Hendrix since his death (pick your own favourite here), but nobody since has been as radical and innovative. I'd say that players like Steve Vai and Joe Satriani are probably more skilled than most proggers, but I'd sooner listen to Robert Fripp or one of the Steve H's.
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Gaston
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Posted: January 09 2005 at 17:04 |
Why is Hendrix better than Howe?
All you have is opinions.
Gaston
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It's the same guy. Great minds think alike.
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Reed Lover
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Posted: January 09 2005 at 17:06 |
Gaston wrote:
Why is Hendrix better than Howe?
All you have is opinions.
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Tell us why you think he isn't, Garcon.
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Posted: January 09 2005 at 17:10 |
Vai and Satriani are faultless guitarists, but they bore me after a time. Style over substance in my opinion. I'd rather listen to a Zappa solo anyday.
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Posted: January 09 2005 at 17:12 |
Richardw wrote:
Segovia was undoubtedly a maestro of the guitar, but i'm not sure if he has influenced as many people as Hendrix. I don't know the answer to that. It's a difficult question to be sure. I've been playing the guitar for 20 years and i still can't believe the things Hendrix did. He was a one off as far as i am concerned. |
That's why I'm sticking to asking questions ATM - if I tried to analyse the three greats; Hendrix, Segovia, Vai (and any others that were offered here) - I'd be up all night, and it's my bedtime...
I've only listened to a very little Django - his music did nothing for me; any albums he made stand out as being truly great, richardw ?
Vai, soulless? Depends what you've heard by him, I suppose - listen to his work on "Ship Arriving Too Late to Save a Drowning Witch". He makes Zappa sound like a wannabee in terms of technicality (Duh!) and an almost tangible sense of someone really playing with his instrument...
I love what he does on DLR's "Eat 'Em and Smile", too - the album may be one cheesey party album, but Vai really sounds like he's having fun - the only other guitarist I've ever heard doing that is Angus Young.
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Gaston
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Posted: January 09 2005 at 17:12 |
I'm not here to give my opinion on a prog site where it's obvious Hendrix comes second to Steve Howe.
But if I must....
The only reason I can believe anyone would pick regular guitarists over any prog guitarist is because they sing and play at the same time (unbelievably thought, since it's just chords)
It's the only reason.
Howe is faster, reads music better, is more creative, has more style components and is better with time signatures. He was classically trained.
Hendrix is a sloppy, rough around the edges, unprecise slasher.
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Posted: January 09 2005 at 17:14 |
"Is more creative".
I don't think so
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Posted: January 09 2005 at 17:15 |
Reed Lover wrote:
Gaston wrote:
Why is Hendrix better than Howe?
All you have is opinions.
Gaston
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Tell us why you think he isn't Garcon.
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Because he is Hendrix not Garcon.
Amazing how the deletion of one comma changes everything.
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Reed Lover
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Posted: January 09 2005 at 17:16 |
Gaston wrote:
I'm not here to give my opinion on a prog site where it's obvious Hendrix comes second to Steve Howe.
But if I must....
The only reason I can believe anyone would pick regular guitarists over any prog guitarist is because they sing and play at the same time (unbelievably thought, since it's just chords)
It's the only reason.
Howe is faster, reads music better, is more creative, has more style components and is better with time signatures. He was classically trained.
Hendrix is a sloppy, rough around the edges, unprecise slasher.
Gaston
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Thanks for that Garcon, hark is that Mummy call you in for beddy-byes? The adults want to talk.
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Posted: January 09 2005 at 17:17 |
Garion81 wrote:
Reed Lover wrote:
Gaston wrote:
Why is Hendrix better than Howe?
All you have is opinions.
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Tell us why you think he isn't Garcon.
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Because he is Hendrix not Garcon.
Amazing how the deletion of one comma changes everything.
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Richardw
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Posted: January 09 2005 at 17:19 |
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Howe is faster, reads music better, is more creative, has more style components and is better with time signatures. He was classically trained.
Hendrix is a sloppy, rough around the edges, unprecise slasher.
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I really despair; I do
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